Symbolism of the Temples

Well, this question came up in another thread and I'm going to snag it and bring it over here.

How are the various temples symbolized?
The question was specifically about color, but I was wondering if Mei has any thoughts on standards or arms-type symbolism. The topic of symbolism in gifts was touched on in a bonus story (A Stupid Ceremony). Is there any other way to represent the gods and goddesses or their worshipers?

MeiLin's picture

Most High

You know, I started to type all this out and realized I could just put it in the wiki. So that's what I'm gonna do! Smile

Laureril's picture

Supplicant

Maybe once the info's up, I can doodle some of them! Smile

MeiLin's picture

Most High

Look up each god and you'll see colors, animals and symbols.

Wraith's picture

Petitioner

Just checked it out and I've gotta say, now more than ever before Harla is my favorite deity. It seems so natural that Her colors would be my favorite colors. I'm thinking of having my roommate (he's an artist) mock up a possible coat of arms for Harla, if you wouldn't mind.

Laureril's picture

Supplicant

Here's what I came up with: Intimate History Heraldry'
Pagg - Purpure, a chief or
Amma - Azure, a fess argent
Eddin - per saltire, or and cendree
Venna - per quarterly, vert and cendree
Farr - Gules, a bend argent
Harla - Sable, a pale gules (or sanguine)
Nerr - per chevron, carnation and gules
Neya - per pall, argent and carnation

Obviously other ornamentation could be added to them, but I thought those particular divisions and charges looked good. If I get a go-ahead, I'd love to work these up into fullblown crests.

Laureril's picture

Supplicant

I realized after I posted this that Harla's doesn't follow the rules of heraldry. So for any diehard medieval historians out there... Harla - per pale sable and gules. Doesn't look nearly as cool, but it follows the rules.

Or you can just imagine that Tremont treats sable as a fur. Smile

LaCiega's picture

The fact that there's someone around who knows these rules and terminology, and cares about them, makes me very happy. Yay for very specific knowledge about very obscure topics...

MeiLin's picture

Most High

You guys surprise me all the time. Smile

Laureril's picture

Supplicant

The sad part is, I lost some sleep over it!

I was actually thinking about joining the SCA for a while. I've been interested in the medieval and renaissance culture since my first faire at 10ish. I've made a couple sets of period clothes, and worked as prop and costume coordinator for a play in middle school called 'A Kid in King Arthur's Court' I literally made chainmaille from soda tabs until my fingers were bleeding. Had a whole team and assembly line. xD

Laureril's picture

Supplicant

Ok, realized I didn't do a great job on the first set and I finally reworked Harla's until I was happy with it.
Intimate History Heraldry

Harla's is now Partie per pall, sanguine and sable, a bend sinister countercharged.
Neya's is now partie per chevron inverted, argent and carnation

V's picture

Embodiment

Who doesn't like some partie per pall, sanguine and sable, a bend sinister countercharged? Great work, and I do hope MLM gives you the nod to work the crests up further Biggrin

magalicious's picture

Postulant

for Harla's!
Also, much love for Neya's crest with the cup/chalice symbolism. YES.

Laureril's picture

Supplicant

if anyone would catch that. I tried to think really hard about what kind of symbolism is appropriate - there's a couple other neat things in there too. (eg. Bend sinister was thought to be unlucky, tends to go with Harla's things. And Eddin's makes an hourglass! Plus, if you notice, each of the pairs shares a shape, transformed somehow.)

NorthwoodsMan's picture

Embodiment

So, how is each one determined and where can I find more information about the subject?

Laureril's picture

Supplicant

http://www.rarebooks.nd.edu/digital/heraldry/ This site is pretty nice, and Wikipedia also has some basics on it.

Really it's not that complex. There's a few basic rules and a lot of vocabulary.

1) Colors go on metals, metals go on colors.
- red, green, blue, purple, black are colors
- white/silver and yellow/gold are metals.
- Furs are neither.
2) Start from the back (the field) and work forward when describing it.

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