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So, I am recently graduated from my LPN program, and still unemployed--I'm online a LOT, job hunting. I have some time on my hands (well, all the time that a demanding 3 year old will let me have). I was thinking about updating the Wiki to the new story, but am not sure to what extent is safe and what would be too spoiler-y. Should I just leave it alone?

The Which's picture

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For example, is something like this giving too much away?

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[character] is [more integral to/no longer a part of/totally different in] the final draft of book one.

(Go ahead and click it; it doesn't actually give anything away Blum 3 )

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...is one giant spoiler by definition. If you go there, you will be spoiled.

How we've handled it in the past has been that information was posted there as it became available here, which made it spoiler-y for anyone still at the beginning. I'm in favor of consensus on this, especially Gudy's input since the wiki is very nearly his creation.

In the interim, if you're so inclined, putting the first draft stuff beneath a "First Draft information (no longer canon)" header would not go amiss.

TheBoy's picture

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putting the first draft stuff beneath a "First Draft information (no longer canon)" header

this is great, for stuff that has (or hasn't) changed.

Gudy's picture

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... some thought since reading through the beta of v2.0 and realising how much stuff would change. There is essentially no way we can avoid internal inconsistencies (Crappy First Draft, especially books 2 and 3, vs. The New History) short of having completely separate sections (which would be overkill, IMO), so we shouldn't even try.

Since the wiki is spoilery by definition, I'm not too concerned about incorporating stuff from the pre-sale/print/e-book into the wiki before the serialization has reached that point. (I had pretty much concluded to do it synchronously with the serialization anyway, but that's due to constraints on my time and energy. If I can get some help there, that should cease to be an issue.)

I'd like to retain the information from the CFD. Putting stuff that's no longer true in TNH under a "First Draft (no longer canon)" header seems like a good idea, even though it can be a lot of work, because there are a lot of small, subtle changes, especially where the major characters are concerned.

One exception is changes in names. E.g. Leutefloss is now called Litta in modern times, with the ancient name being Leute. In these cases, I'd like the main article to be under the new, current name, i.e. Litta, with redirects from Leutefloss and Leute. The article should then give the ancient name in the main text and the CFD name under the "First Draft (no longer canon)" heading. E.g.:

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Litta is a Barony in the Kingdom of Tremont. Called Leute in ancient times, it was the neighbouring kingdom to the east of Tremont until it became a part of Tremont on the death of Fredrik the Last.

First Draft (no longer canon)
Litta was called Leutefloss in the first draft.

MeiLin's picture

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Make it so, Mr Gudy.

A note on the CFD: I've been calling it that, but have been taken to task for it. Apparently, I am offending those who liked it. So I'm going to stop calling it that.

The Which's picture

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I've hidden the link behind a spoiler tag; don't read if you don't want spoilers!

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Now I just need another 70 points to access the first draft to make comparisons...

The Which's picture

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I'm not certain how much of the wiki should be who a character is, and how much should be what a character did. In the case of the above, the character was instrumental in bringing about certain events--just not sure how much to include, I guess.

(I suppose I could take this to the discussion tab on the wiki, but I don't know if anyone would ever see it that way.)

Capriox's picture

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Ooh, that pretty purple badge goes nicely with your lovely feminine icon, if I do say so myself.

*wanders off whistling*

Gudy's picture

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... beat me to it!

The Which wrote:
I'm not certain how much of the wiki should be who a character is, and how much should be what a character did.

It should definitely say who the character is. As far as I am concerned, it should also give the main points of what that character did, at least where important events or actions, both in the main story and the stories-within-story, are concerned. When the character page starts resembling a story synopsis, though, you're overdoing it. Blum 3

The Which wrote:
(I suppose I could take this to the discussion tab on the wiki, but I don't know if anyone would ever see it that way.)

I look at the Recent Changes page at least once a week (mainly for spam patrol, but also simply to see what, if anything, is new), so I would definitely see it. Generally, we've been using the AIHotGK Discussion page to coordinate stuff or keep track of what needs doing. So for general stuff, that's probably where to put it, while page-specific stuff should probably go to the Discussion page for that article.

I don't know how familiar you are with wikis, but I have found both Recent Changes and the various Special Pages to be very useful for wikiing.

The Which's picture

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Not very familiar, which is why I am asking these questions. I have the time, so I would like to be helpful if possible. Apologies if anything is not up to standards! I'll work on it Smile

Gudy's picture

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... it too much. If we had worried about standards, the wiki would never have gotten off the ground. Biggrin

The Which's picture

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Smile Very Helpful Smile

MeiLin's picture

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I'm sure 70 points will be forthcoming soon. Smile

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