Hanging around ;)

Hey Sir, I have an actual kink-related question!
When Temmin did his tour of the petitioners' chambers back in chapter 31, he saw a woman in hanging rope bondage. How is this safely done? What sort of rope and support is needed? Wouldn't it, well, chafe? Inquisitive minds want to know! Smile

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Velvetackbar's picture

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Rope bondage can be done very safely.

Most of the practicioners and afficianados of this lovely form of bondage are quite accomplished, and have experimented for many years with various knots, pressure points and body shapes to make it an exceptionally safe and enjoyable "flight" for the bondagee.

That said, it still hurts. at least a bit. Chafing isn't the term...though that does occur sometimes--usually someone is in hurry and pulls the rope too fast. Think pressure.

The idea is to suspend someone, but such a suspension doesn't work if there is, say, a solitary loop of rope tied around the abdomen of the suspendee. this cuts off the circulation, and will result in a trip to the hospital for all but the lightest of submissives.

Now...put 4,5, 8 strands of rope across that same midsection, and you have a recipe for suspension. Think of concentrating your entire weight on just inches spreat out over your body. You can imagine the pressures invovled. Bruising can occur (and most likely will), but we know that not all bruising is bad ;-)

In terms of material, you want to make sure that you EXCEED the subbies weight for a single strand of rope. Really, there are many ropes that are suitable, and jsut a few that are NOT. Most of those that are unsuitable are difficult to tie, or too slippery to make the ties stay in place. think Poly rope that you use for boating or crabbing.

If this is something you are into doing, consider vising the websites of some of your fellow pervs. They are experts in this form of bondage. I am just a witness :-)

http://www.ropelover.com/ is the site of an acquaintance of mine, B. Harrington. I have seen her do *self* suspension during a party several years ago. It was brilliantly done, and fascinating to watch.

http://ropefreaks.com/index.php has a GREAT site with excellent debates on which is better for bondage: cotton vs. hemp.

For sheer selection, I like: http://kinkyropes.com/store/

Lastly, you could consider attending Shibaricon, but at this late of a date, you would want to be from or in Chicago: http://www.shibaricon.com/

Oh, and there is one last thing: be VERY CAREFUL of the metals used to suspend a person. Pay close attention to the loads allowed, and it is worth your money to buy high quality vs cheap and looks good. I have seen metal failures, and it is NOT pretty. Your sub is YOUR responsibility...keep them safe and jazzed up for future play.

Oh, and since we are going with a japanese theme: consider buying one of these for Meilin:
http://rainbowrope.com/steel.html#nose I just wanna see her scowl when she opens the box ;-)

MeiLin's picture

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where you sleep, you know.

sarianna's picture

Devotee

you two are fiendishly adorable. I feel privileged to see you interact so sweetly in this space. Smile

MeiLin's picture

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We're ridiculously cute and we know it. Dirol

sarianna's picture

Devotee

Eek, i can definitely see how it's a "pressure" more than "chafe." But wow. Awesome links, thank you much. I will heartily second the "don't go cheapskate" emphasis, for anything in this realm, because it's very easy to get hurt, and that makes for Sad

Gudy's picture

Embodiment

I've read anecdotal reports a bondage mailing list of people falling asleep (as opposed to passing out) while suspended because it was soooo comfy. It's just a question of the number of wraps and suspension points in order to distribute the load...

Sir, doesn't the RopeLover go mostly by Lee and "he" these days? At least I vaguely remember reading mails to the ARA list signed that way...

And as far as far as the potential presents for MeiLin go, I just don't see the appeal of nose hooks. As far as metal hardware is concerned that plugs into the sub on one end and is attached to a rope on the other, I find these far more appealing...

V's picture

Embodiment

for Sir or any other knowledgeable top...pros and cons for using 550 cord (paracord, this stuff for bondage? Please note that we aren't talking anything fancy here--a few hand or double cuffs, no suspension. I understand that a lot of the common ropes are thicker, ~6mm, and that would be important if you're putting significant loads on them. However, the 550 cord is cheap, readily available (I already have a bunch), is rated for 550 lb, and the sheath would seem to increase comfort and reduce chafing.

Anything I'm missing, or anything I should be aware of? Again--we're starting out very slow, here, and I don't expect circulation to be threatened at all--tho everyone will be watching for that or numbness.

MeiLin's picture

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It is primarily a decorative binding, for instance, as part of kinbaku or shibari-style Japanese bondage. That's my immediate advice. Sir is gone, but he may check in here later.

V's picture

Embodiment

That was one of the shortcomings I identified. Not as a tensile strength issue, but as a pressure issue. I appreciate the input Smile

I'll be browsing various sites but if anyone has a favorite tutorial for a simple double-cuff (emphasis on simple and well-described) I'd appreciate that, too. I found a good single cuff somewhere that I still remember--3 wraps, then looping the ends under the cuff and back through themselves, basically. No tightening and no loosening, but I wasn't able to expand it directly to a non-tightening double cuff.

Gudy's picture

Embodiment

...is properly called a two column tie. (At least if I understood you right.) I recommend the Twisted Monk video tutorials, which just happens to have a two column tie as the first tutorial on the page.

As an aside, if you intend to use the parachord for that, use a couple more windings around the arms or legs or whatever to spread the load. Notice how Monk ends up with eight loops of 6mm rope to make something that is quite comfy. Six loops would be OK in most cases, and four is usable if you're sure there won't be much pulling or other forces involved. With the thinner parachord, you'll need significantly more loops to spread the load over a similar area.

Davik's picture

Embodiment

I didn't check the video because I'm running a little short on time here, but at a glance the two column tie is the same thing as the parallel lashing I mentioned in the sex toys thread, and yes, you'll want to use more loops when you're using a thinner rope.

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