Forum question

Is the "other people's stories" forum for posting full stories by other people, or is it for linking to where those stories are?

I have an experiment would love to post here so people don't have to sign up for livejournal if they don't want to. I just don't want to look like I'm trying to steal Miss MeiLin's thunder.

Not that I really could.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

Do you have your LJ set to friends-only? Otherwise, just point to it from that forum and we'll all troop over and read it.

Zandu Ink's picture

Embodiment

I have it friends-locked because one of the communities I posted to said I had to in order to keep my publishing rights. I don't know how true that is or not.

Clare-Dragonfly's picture

Supplicant

Most publishers (probably not all, and certainly not all will notice) consider posting your work publicly online as publication, and many of those will not want to buy it because first publication rights are already gone. But it's not going to make a difference whether you post it here or on LiveJournal, unless there's a way to post things here so that only members can see them.

Zandu Ink's picture

Embodiment

A friends only livejournal is, as I understand, considered private in the eyes of publishers. Just as if I gave friends and family a copy to proofread. I'm not terribly worried about it, since this will probably never see the light of day anyway, but on the off chance the experiment works, I want to be able to do something with it.

Clare-Dragonfly's picture

Supplicant

What I meant was that it doesn't matter whether you post it publicly here or publicly on Livejournal--it's still public. Sorry if I didn't make that clear. My thinking was if you want us to read it, you may as well post it on LJ and make the posts public, since that is no more or less public than posting it here.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

well--YOU will have your publishing rights, but I was told to drop the History and write something I could sell, because I'd never sell this; I'd already published it. To which I answered, "Get bent." But that's me.

Zandu Ink's picture

Embodiment

Are you doing POD publishing or something else? I know you're self-publishing, (you are, aren't you?) but I'm not quite sure what that means.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

I'm founding my own publishing company with my own ISBNs, but CreateSpace (a POD company) will handle the printing and distribution. I'll be accepting manuscripts from other writers, but they'll have to pay for their own editing services to begin with. And I'll still have the right to reject manuscripts.

Zandu Ink's picture

Embodiment

Does that mean I shouldn't ask you (among the others here) to read my project while I'm writing it? Not that you don't already have enough on your plate.

Capriox's picture

Embodiment

Will said publishing company some how be tied into the digitalnovelists project/site? Cos that would be super cool and awesome for folks like me that are planning on using DN once/if we get around to writing enough.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

I don't vet the DNers for quality--which is NOT to say that they're aren't quality, I'm just sayin' that being at DN is not a guarantee that I'd put the Sans-Culotte imprint on it. (Yeah, it's Sans-Culotte Press.) But I would definitely put DNers toward the top of the pile. I'm not going to be ready for that project for a while yet.

Capriox's picture

Embodiment

Okay, thanks. I like being informed even on "maybe someday" projects - sorta window-shopping for the future, if you will Wink

april.raines's picture

Petitioner

I shall add this to my list of things to remember - when the time comes. Smile

Eleonora's picture

Devotee

Maybe we could set a LJ circle up or something, I would also like to get some feedback on my stories. (The whole two that are up on my LJ (actually now that I think about it, that's kind of an accomplishment, including the silly fic I wrote that's now three stories in half a year after years of not finishing anything...)) Anyone think that's a good idea?

Raigne's picture

Embodiment

A private LJ community would probably be perfect. It could be styled as a group editing thing, and made members only and join by request/invitation (however it works) and that way Historians could come read, but it would still be private, thus protecting publishability.

Zandu Ink's picture

Embodiment

I'd be for that. I can't make it myself, but I'd sure join one. If anyone knows how to set something like that up, let us know.

Clare-Dragonfly's picture

Supplicant

It's very easy, almost exactly like creating a journal. You can even convert an existing journal to a community.

I'm not interested in doing it myself, though, because I don't use LJ much. If anyone wanted to set up/join something like that on Dreamwidth, I'd be willing. (Speaking of which, if anyone wants a Dreamwidth invite, I have four!)

Eleonora's picture

Devotee

I'm more for LJ, that way anyone that wants to join can join. I'd be willing to set up a community, never done it, but can't be that hard. If everybody who wants in replies here, I could probably set something up this weekend. Unless there are of course better ideas.

Ooohh... and we would need a name.

Raigne's picture

Embodiment

I can make it instead. Up to you.

I feel like it should kind of be related to here, since this is our common link, but I don't know what we'd call it.

Eleonora's picture

Devotee

I'm okay with making it, I'll shout if I encounter any problems. I could put you up as moderator or how it's called at LJ, if you're ok with that. It's probably better to have more than one. If it stays small, we could even decide to give everyone moderating rights or something.

Names, just brainstorming:

Intimate Writing Circle
Intimate Writers
Tremontine Writers

Raigne's picture

Embodiment

mods can help with things like formatting and setup. They're just for keeping the riffraff and the trolls out of the comments, which isn't something I think we'll need to worry about.

Really, I don't think you'll run into any insurmountable problems that google won't be able to help you out of. Have at!

Clare-Dragonfly's picture

Supplicant

Only one person can do the actual work of setting up the community, of course (unless you're both in the same room typing on the same computer or something) but a mod can do anything with a community that a journal owner can do with their journal: layouts, tags, comment styles, etc. Mods in most communities end up mainly policing posts/comments, though, or at least that's the most visible day-to-day work. Probably the most important modly power for this community will be the ability to approve members (assuming you're going with closed membership).

Raigne's picture

Embodiment

And a strong argument for modding everyone.

I am a mod for another community, but I'm not sure what we have access to other than policing posts, since that was the reason for the promotion.

Eleonora's picture

Devotee

BTW, Meilin, could there be a LJ option in the social networks tab?

MeiLin's picture

Most High

Let me go see what I can dig up. Watch this post.

ETA: Ask and ye shall receive.

Eleonora's picture

Devotee

Thanks!

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