Thoughts on the end of this trilogy
...the hiatus...and the story to come...
About hiatus:
I'm thinking of taking a few days off, but probably won't because this is me we're talking about.
eh, I'll try, but you guys have made the target and then some, so I feel obligated. Plus also the points stories can be pretty short; I aim for between 300-1000 words. And they actually help me flesh out back stories and understand the characters more, and that's going to be important in days to come.
So the schedule is going to be a story on Tuesday, one on Thursday, and a story on Sa if people meet the target. If it's okay with you, the Thursday story will be the Dr Who novella I wrote. I know, kinda lame, but I'm proud of it in a nerdy way.
I also encourage people to write sillyfic. Not fanfic. Please don't write History fanfic. Please. BUT! If you have fan art, or silly stories with the characters in them, please! I'd love to have them. The only one we currently have--and it's a doozy--is Three Quests, by Wysteria, the writer of Tapestry. If you're a serial novelist, this is a great way to get traffic for your site; I will pimp the hell out of you if you give me a sillyfic. 
Last note on hiatus: I don't know how long it's going to be. I'm hoping I'll be done by the fall. I am terrified you'll all go away and there will be no audience left when I come back with the book (though I won't really be gone). So I'm very motivated to work hard on this and get it done, but I want to get it done right.
...and when I'm done...
Those of you who follow me on Twitter know I recently read Ignore Everybody. I cried through a lot of it, which would make the author confused; it's not a sad book. It's actually rather funny. I cried because it validated everything I've been thinking about lately--all the stuff that I've been told was impractical, or shocking, or stupid, or just plain impossible. He says ignore all those guys. Do what the small creative voice inside you tells you to do. Because if you don't, you kill the voice.
Being an indie/self-published writer is scary work. Theoretically, you're cut off from every traditional avenue of the writer; no publisher, no agent, no help with publicity, no editor, no designer. No one will review your work. You're almost literally an outcast. You don't do this lightly. But this is what the small voice told me to do. It's where I'm free to write the way I want to write. That doesn't mean writing badly (I hope). I want this to be as professional and well-written as it possibly can be, and if you guys like it, that is so wonderful. And if you don't, well, I'll keep working at it and get better. That's been my philosophy from the get-go.
When you're out here by yourself, though, it's easy to get tangled up in all the "shoulds." Because you're breaking so many rules already, it's easy to look toward the traditional and try to emulate it. You start worrying about branding, and marketing, and all that stuff, and how you shouldn't do this and shouldn't do that. And I'm not saying I won't think about branding and marketing.
But in getting in serious touch with that little voice, I've come back around to my original way of thinking about the story. It should be freely available to read online.
Oh, you're still going to have to pay for the ebook, or the paperback, or the audiobook, gods willing I should get it recorded. But when I'm done with book one, I'm going to come back here, take the draft down, and start putting the story back out again, an installment at a time, just as I did the first time around. If you want the whole story at once, you can buy the book(
. Otherwise, you can wait for Tuesdays, and Saturdays if the target is reached. (Thursdays will remain points story days.) While book one is rolling out on the site, I'll be working on the rewrite of book two, and while book two rolls out, I'll be working on book three. While book three rolls out, I'll be working on the draft of book four. And so on. I ran this past the people who participated in the pre-sales, for fear they'd feel cheated, and all of the ones I've heard from are okay with it. So away we go.
I can tell you now that things in the final books are going to be different. The basic story will be the same, but the characters will be more fully developed (especially Tem), the world will be even more coherent (especially in book one, oy), and events will be reordered; stuff that happened in book one of the draft may show up instead as part of book two, etc. Some storylines will be dropped, and some of you will be mad about that, perhaps; some new ones will be introduced. It's going to be worth the journey, I sincerely hope, and I hope you take it with me.
The Intimate History books are drafts. Keep that in mind as you read. A fully edited and revised version of each book will appear beginning in 2010.
Scryer's Gulch stands and falls on its own, a true soap opera. Never look back, never revise, just make shit up to explain those plot holes away! Yeehaw!
An Intimate History of the Greater Kingdom and Scryer's Gulch by Lynn Siprelle writing as MeiLin Miranda are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works 3.0 United States License.
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We will still be here when the book is ready.
Meilin's Kingdom
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
Sleepy time for Mei
We the loyal fandom will still be kicking around. There's a great community here, which you should be proud of. Many of us have met each other by your work. I doubt we will vanish overnight.
I'm itching to see the finished Book 1, but I'm a patient fellow. Do what you feel's best, it has worked so far.
If you'll excuse the farce and conjecture.
Hiatus is fine, if you write all the Harsin bonus stories.
I certainly wouldn't mind...
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
never mind...
Though I would certainly appreciate some Jenks and Anda thrown in there...
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
Bonus stories,
Bonus stories, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Although I won't deny I'm going to be jonesing the whole time for the start of book four
edited: horrible typo
Supreme Minister of All Livestock
"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
I often stay away from the
I often stay away from the story for a week at a time, so that when I get back, the anticipation makes the story that much better (not that your stories aren't great already!). So the hiatus is just like a long, enforced time away to let the anticipation build.
Also, even if you put up the revised version on the internet, I am planning on buying a dead tree version of book one (and books two and up) that I can read in cars and on lines and on lunch breaks. So never fear that you'll be loosing money by posting the final version (well, at least in this one case.)
And, before anyone can comment on it AGAIN, I'm going to sign up for an account! As of Saturday, I'm officially unemployed and have nothing but time on my hands. Give me a week or two to get things settled, and I'll join this awesome club officially.
Finally!
Now we just have to take bets on how long it'll take you to reach embodiment.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
bang...bang...foul...
don't be jumping the gun. Veralidaine still has to make an account first.
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
as to your subject, is that
as to your subject, is that your opinion on the three popular female orifices?
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
That was bad...
... even for you. Still made me snicker, I admit.
rofl...
Funny. Terrible, but funny.
No, it's a reference to track and field. When the starter fires twice, someone has jumped and they have to restart. aka, jumping the gun.
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
Thank you both for your kind
Thank you both for your kind words.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
I am aware of that
Since, you know, it was stated in the post that an account wouldn't be made right away.
I assumed it was a given that we'd continue to bug the shit out of him/her if he/she failed to follow through.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
You are awesome! For some
You are awesome!
For some reason reading this made me go all ->
I think it was the bit about being an outcast in what you do that pushed a nerve on me. I'm at a huge cross-road in my life at the moment, and it will take forever until I know where to go from here. So seeing you listening to your own little creative voice really makes me happy. Somehow confident. I respect the way you are doing things here and it feels right to me, so I'm more than happy to support what you are doing
Cheers!
I don't want to harp on that
But I confess that it is hard to take part in writer chats and so on and feel the air go a bit cold when I tell people what I do. It's like I'm a level below fanfic writers. (And having been a fanfic writer, I know whereof I speak and mean no disrespect.) In RL the writers I know are all "Submit! You're good enough! Don't do this, just drop the project you're working on and write something you can sell!" But I can't do that. If I do that, it's focusing on what I can sell, not what I want to write.
I may be working on "Scryer's Gulch" a bit this week and next. Nettah the Edittah is recommending I leave the History be for a couple of weeks and come back with fresh eyes. This is OVERWHELMING, though I think I am getting a handle on it. It'll be hard not to come to you guys and go "You guys! You won't believe what happens in chapter one!" But that's what I'll have to do.
Never
Write something to be sold.
Intimate History is wonderful. I'm sure Scryer's Gulch will be as well.
And dear authoress, I cannot vouch for any of the others, but I can tell you that it would take a lot more than a brief hiatus (meaning anything lasting up to five or so years) to rid yourself of me.
You've got me stuck and in love with your stories, your plots and subplots, your characters, and yourself.
Lead on, MacDuff.
"Thunder only happens when it's raining.
Players only love you when they're playing.
Say... Women... They will come and they will go.
When the rain washes you clean you'll know."
Do what you have to do
And call me a "daydream believer" You are more than good enough. I too will be buying dead tree editions of all IHGK books. I will re-read & treasure them all, while still savouring every word you write here.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
Go for it...
I am waiting to get my hands on - lol!
- dead-tree versions of all the books!
And your work is really really good, Mei... Don't worry, we'll be here when you get back... Should have a big party then, huh?
On retaining/recapturing the readers
I don't know if you're already planning this, but I was thinking... wouldn't it be fairly easy to email an announcement to all the registered readers when a) the final drafts are ready and b) when book 4 starts? I know that if I do end up checking the site less often, a MLM site-wide email saying "hey, the story's back!" with a link would have me back here in an instant.
As for the non-registered readers, this is also something you're probably already planning, but you could drop your advertising for now and save up the $$ for a ad blitz when the final books are ready and/or book 4 starts.
Obvious, but I thought I'd toss them out there just in case.
I am helping, I am helping? (note to self: ask about Reboot in the anime thread)
Supreme Minister of All Livestock
"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
you are helping, you are helping :)
Yeah, I'm saving the ad dollars for now until we reboot (ha!). And I'll be doing an email blast, too. I'll be figuring out all the ways to get the word out.
If you're saving...
Then Maybe you will have enough by the time fall rolls around. I didn't suggest Something Positive before, since his project wonderful ads are usually over $20 to place, but he allows NSFW (at least, I often see things there that are quite obviously NSFW), and while the content of his comic may not have much to do with the plot of the story, his readers are a part of the indie comic culture, like QC, so you may be able to grab some people that way.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
SP hasn't done much in the past
I've gotten the best results from Flipside, Two Rooks, Questionable Content (yay, Jeph!!), Heard, DAR, and long ago, ToMU (no longer; I think I've tapped that vein). Few others.
Well.
If I happen to catch a certain 'net celebrity I stalk the next time she's PMSing and looking for something that isn't her usually dark humor/horror novel, I will plug you. And then maybe she will plug you.
I may plug you before that if she opens the door for the comment. I don't actually know her, so I feel like it'd have to be relevant to something she's actually said.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
If you keep talking about
If you keep talking about plugging MeiLin, and getting others to do same, Sir might have words with you.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
Hmm.
Words of hostility or encouragement?
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Absent his consent, I'd be
Absent his consent, I'd be worried.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
you'd better be
You're taller and younger, but he's meaner and he don't fight fair.
Fighting fair is for folks
Fighting fair is for folks who like to lose. And I was merely suggesting that Raigne should take it as admonition.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
depends on his mood
He defers to me on the matter, actually; these days I'm shockingly monogamous.
summer vacation
Hey a lot of webcomic people take summer vacations, and though this isn't a comic, I consider anyone who can put out the volume and quality of work every week you do to be an artist no matter the medium. And we know you have little ones who are now home and underfoot all day (not condusive to writing of any type... I would think even less so for this). Take your time and just write something that amuses you, post it or don't, its your vacation. I'm sure we'll all still be here chatting amongst ourselves and posting supplicats and terrible pun-stories or something. And the idea about doing a big ad-burst when you restart is good, maybe you could have a ad-making-contest or something? There are a lot of creative people here. Just sayin...
thoughts on your hiatus
there have been times where I (and I'm sure others) have had to take time away from your writing for different reasons. when I was in school I just couldnt put aside the time for it. it didn't cause me to forget about it AT ALL, however, and it was sort of nice to come back with a fresh look at your writing and a nice little build up of chapters to read.
a season or two would not be enough to throw us off the scent. besides... I like reading the forums.
my point being that we will definitely be here when you are ready to come out of hiatus.
Seconded.
When I lost computer access for a month (video card died) IHGK was one of the last I got to updating myself on (my only serial novel, and so the volume of missed info was overwhelming), but I did get caught up and back to posting within a week of the computer being back in action. Compare to Girl Genius, which I still have not gotten up the motivation to read through, and it's now been a few months since that happened. The story's just not interesting enough for me to want to do it, without there being a serious case of boredom, but IHGK was a priority.
Plus, this is the community I'm most active in lately. Somewhere in the last 4 years I completely outgrew the Gaia forums (even the ED) and my Guild Wars guild is dead until GW2 is released.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Curious kitty
Out of curiosity, what are the Gaia Forums and ED? My guess would be something very New Agey, and I'm wondering if I'm off-base or not.
Supreme Minister of All Livestock
"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
Way off.
Gaia is Gaia Online, which started out as an anime fansite but has moved way, way beyond that, and has the (self-proclaimed, though I don't doubt that it's close to the truth) largest forum community on the internet (outside 4chan, I assume, though community is questionable when describing that particular corner of the 'net).
ED is Extended Discussion, which is where all the intellectuals (read: verbose, opinionated assholes (redundant terminology?)) hang out. I used to be there. Now I'm usually posting the writers and computers forums, and occasionally lurking elsewhere.
The average age of the people who frequent it is 16-18, so it's easy to see why I've lost interest.
Also, you won't catch me hanging out around new agey websites. Not that I have any opinion about them, but as I think I have mentioned elsewhere, I am not just a lapsed Catholic, I am also a lapsed Wiccan, and my interest in Catholicism came after the interest in Wicca. My parents are Wiccan, and my grandmother's been a priestess for about 20 years and led her own coven for 10 of them.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
I was having a really hard
I was having a really hard time seeing you hanging around a New Agey forum, so that's exactly why I asked!
Thanks for the explanation.
Re: redundant terminology... hm... *is* it possible to have an asshole who isn't vocally opinionated? Interesting question. They could still be an asshole in their thinking, but if they don't share the obnoxiousness, then no one would know?
Supreme Minister of All Livestock
"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
You could have someone who's
You could have someone who's an asshole, but without firm opinions, and just is an asshole to everyone just because he can.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
*Bows low*
I'm sure a few people will fall off without having their ADD stimulated every so often during your hiatus...
But as many above have said, we ain't going anywhere. We are your loyal zealots. At least, I know that I am. Hell, I talk to ANYone who might have a nudge of a possibility of being interested. And I repeatedly talk to the same people to just...remind them.
This is the first site that I actually stopped lurking and got involved, and actually donated something other than random words.
You put out quality, and I know that I wouldn't be here if not for that.
I'm sure I'll get all "grr-arghy" about plot changes, story line drops, just because I heart them as they are...but you're going from posting to posting, to a full on book, as you well know with all the crazy working that you're doing to get it to the level of quality that you want.
It's like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy...every reincarnation has been rather different from previously...Of course in this instance I won't be spitting mad, growling and shaking the entire of movie theatre seats in front of me in my rage. My friend thought we were going to get kicked out.
Anyways... in the downtime I'll be jonesing terribly and rereading all sorts of things and informing the uninformed masses just what is missing in their life....Meilin's works!
"There is an art, a knack for flying. This knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss!"--DNA
MeiLin, how do you
MeiLin, how do you distinguish between fanfic and sillyfic?
Fanfic tries to build on the
Fanfic tries to build on the canon in a serious, or attempted serious, fashion.
Sillyfic doesn't try to do anything but be funny and just happen to use characters from the canon.
Or that's how I see it, anyway.
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correct
Teacher in a Volvo comes to mind (from the dream thread). Wysteria's story is a classic example.
Check it, bitches!
Check it, bitches!
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
Teacher
In a volvo saying "check it bitches" needs just one more touch... He needs to be wearing a hat on backwards while sporting a day old stubble & dark wrap around sunglasses.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
Nonono
He needs to show up like Merlin at the end of the Disney rendition of "The Sword and the Stone." Tall hat, long beard, sunglasses, Hawaiian flower shirt over his robes, and high-top sneakers. I don't so much see him getting out of a Volvo so much as an Isetta, Steve Urkel's whole-front-is-the-door car.
On a slightly related note, why doesn't Teacher have a familiar? All wizards need a familiar. Like an owl, or a flying eel (kudos to anyone that gets this ref).
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Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. - Sean Connery, The Rock
Wrong.
"Check it bitches" fits, as evidence by the fact that Teacher's familiar is a pimp cane. *whack*
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Touché, Mister Man. Touché.
Touché, Mister Man. Touché.
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Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen. - Sean Connery, The Rock
But...
I'm a girl.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
certainly...
and we like it that way...
yet, you have yet to do any modeling for us...
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
Didn't I just tell you...
that all I do is tease?
Also, my picture is easy to find, on a certain social networking site. Raigne was taken there too, so it's under raigne86 again...
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
I realize you're a girl.
I realize you're a girl. Unfortunately, "Touché, Mister Man. Touché." is a semi-catchphrase of mine. I mean no disrespect.
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social...
I will have to check that this evening. Have you thought about the move to FB?
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
No.
I am concerned about Facebook's policies about providing user specific information to the government. Not that they could provide any information that wouldn't be publicly available beyond usage statistics, but that's not really the point. I have had the myspace account for awhile already, and only use it to keep in contact with a couple specific people.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Erm yeah
Erm yeah I fully blame Channey for that bit of Butcher Bush policy. I could have gone my whole life with out ever seeing us get so close to a "Big Brother society." What alarms me the most is how few people are truly alarmed by this.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
Yep.
Plays a big part in why I like Google so damn much. Yahoo stuck their hands up and went "here, take it!" and Google made them go through the legal system if they wanted it.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Now that's a
mental image
"I don't so much see him getting out of a Volvo so much as an Isetta, Steve Urkel's whole-front-is-the-door car. "
All powerful wizard in a clown car.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
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