assasinations among the nobility

Are assasinations among the Tremontine nobility common? I could imagine the heir of some duke/count/etc. helping his parents into the next world for wealth/power, but I don't remember much about it in the main story.

TheBoy's picture

Embodiment

I don't remember any occasion where that's even been really speculated about in-story.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

Remember, we're following Temmin through ten years, and though I intend to do some time compression here soon (probably after the end of book 3 or possibly 4), we've got a lot to cover in the process. I wouldn't say it's socially acceptable, but it happens, especially when the nobility is the king--though almost always those attempts are unsuccessful, considering Teacher is standing guard.

TheBoy's picture

Embodiment

is some understanding of what Teacher is.
And a really serious distraction (e.g., a fake assassin)
and a really subtle actual assassin.

NorthwoodsMan's picture

Embodiment

I have a feeling that we've barely scratched the surface of what Teacher is. How is a commoner or member of the nobility that is either unaware or only thinks of him as an advisor supposed to understand him?

MeiLin's picture

Most High

don't even believe in Teacher, or assume, as Temmin did, that it's a hereditary position and the descendants look a great deal like their ancestors.

Pikachu42's picture

Embodiment

I kinda assumed it was hinted at whenever harsin's brothers were mentioned. It kinda read, at least to me, that the only real reason hardin is king is because teacher fended off his brothers...so perhaps it's "common" between future kings?

seia's picture

Devotee

There were a few mentions of Harsin's [half]brothers attempting to get rid of him (the precautions surrounding Temmin's new sibling seems to be to prevent it from repeating), but I think the situations are a bit different.
Harsin's brothers are all older than him and may feel that they've been cheated out of their throne right, whereas a young noble who sees his parents as an obstacle between him and power/wealth might feel differently about it.

sherinik's picture

Postulant

I believe Teacher is constrained against taking direct action against Harsin's stepbrothers. They are after all directly descended from the previous King, and if Harsin and Temmin were 'removed' then they would come into play. Teacher is bound to the Tremontine line, not to the current incumbent.

At least that's how I think it works?

TheBoy's picture

Embodiment

I would guess that Teacher can intervene against Harsin's brothers if they're taking direct action against Harsin...

MeiLin's picture

Most High

Teacher cannot--ever--kill a man in the bloodline if he's within the reasonable line of succession, no matter what the man is doing. Harsin's half-brothers (not stepbrothers) are currently protected. Twenna's baby moves them that much further out of the line of succession. If/when Temmin has a son, they will very probably be out of the protection of the blood, and Teacher would very probably kill them immediately. Teacher is bound both to the King and to the bloodline; only the King can issue commands, but those commands cannot be used to hurt anyone in the succession.

seia's picture

Devotee

Do Harsin's brother know/suspect that Teacher has been helping Harsin stay alive and do they suspect their probably deaths when there's another heir?

And a question that'll probably be too spoiler-riddled to answer: Could Teacher, technically, commit suicide?

TheBoy's picture

Embodiment

I'm guessing no.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

it would have happened a long time ago.

kawaiikune's picture

Embodiment

the saddest fricken thing. Poor Teacher Sad

TheBoy's picture

Embodiment

for serious--really sad.

Gudy's picture

Embodiment

... way back when, where Temmin mumbled something like "May the Bloody One get that Teacher" and Teacher's reply upon overhearing this was along the lines of a softly mumbled "I wish". Sad

kawaiikune's picture

Embodiment

a good thing to add to the book...maybe a scene where Teacher explains it to Temmin, or Harsin explains it to Temmin, or even Teacher and Harsin discuss it? I know we largely want to leave Teacher shrouded in mystery, but this was kind of confusing.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

I've figured out a LOT of stuff since I started writing this--one of the hazards of my "get the draft out there" process. Smile

kawaiikune's picture

Embodiment

I'm certainly not complaining. I absolutely love the fact that this is the sort of book that I can actually ask the author questions on a regular basis. I'm guessing a lot of the comments I make are things you already know or have thought of, but I'm probably going to keep making them anyway just in case.

MeiLin's picture

Most High

That Darn Manoki's questions are how we ended up in this mess to begin with!

NorthwoodsMan's picture

Embodiment

Well then, if I ever met that darn Manoki, I'll have to buy her a drink.

The Which's picture

Embodiment

We

I almost never have questions because I'm so sure that whatever conclusions I come up with are the right ones. People ask questions that disagree with my theories, and I go, "pfft. Yeah right," only to be shot down when the answer eventually rears its head.

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