Chapter 34 | The Last Royal Mistress
There He Is
“This isn’t ‘up before dawn’--it’s practically the middle of the night, Jenks!” yawned Temmin.
“In fact, it is now half-past four, and you’re due at the Temple in less than an hour,” answered Jenks as he cleared up the remnants of Temmin’s light breakfast. “Your sisters are probably already in the small drawing room to give you your presents before you leave. I suggest you don’t keep them waiting. Miss Ellika is particularly cranky at this hour.” Temmin drew on his suit coat and shot his cuffs; Jenks gave him an approving nod and handed him the nosegays for Ellika and Sedra.
“What did your sisters send you?” Temmin said.
Jenks chuckled. “Only one of them is unmarried, you know that. Justice sent me a very lovely set of handkerchiefs she hemmed and embroidered for me. Very useful--just the sort of present she would send.”
“Justice,” said Temmin, rolling his eyes. “How old is she?”
“Off with you, Your Highness,” said Jenks, shooing him out the door.
Temmin galloped down the stairs. Despite the early hour, the servants were already at work; it was a holiday and there was much still to do. Flowers festooned the banisters and hallways; their pink and red ribbons rustled in the breeze Temmin left in his wake. He pulled up just outside the small drawing room. For the first time ever, their mother would not be with them for a Nerr’s Day blessing exchange. He spent a moment untangling the ribbons dangling from the nosegays, and entered with as much brotherly dignity as he could manage.
“There he is!” muttered Ellika under her breath, but she gave him a bleary smile. Her hair was hastily clasped at her nape with a pink ribbon; her eyes were puffy and her wrapper slightly askew. Sedra looked somewhat more composed. “Let Sedra go first,” murmured Ellika. “This is her last Nerr’s Day.”
Temmin set one of the nosegays down on a nearby console and stepped in front of his oldest sister; her dark eyes were especially brilliant this morning, and he felt his own water in response. “Sedra, as your brother, should you ever lose our father’s protection before your husband comes to claim you, I promise to protect you, to give you food and drink, to shod your foot and clothe your back, until--” he choked on a sudden marble in his throat-- “until you are safely married.” He put the red-beribboned nosegay in her hands and squeezed them, a tear pooling at the corner of his eye; he was ashamed until Sedra began crying herself.
She screwed up her mouth into a smile, and said in a scratchy voice, “As your sister, I thank you for your protection, and I promise to pray for you every day until you are safely married!”
She gave him the ceremonial kiss on both cheeks, but Temmin pulled her close and hugged her. “Oh, Seddy, I will miss you so, so much!”
“I will pray for you every day even after you’re safely married, Tem,” she whispered into his shoulder. “No matter how far apart we are. Now, here. It’s a small thing,” she added, handing him a little jewel case. Temmin opened it. Inside were a pair of silver cufflinks, each engraved with a horse, mane flying, rearing with pride--the banner of the house of Whithorse.
He hugged her close again, then released her and retrieved the nosegay tied with pink ribbons. “Ellika,” he said, giving her the flowers, “as your brother, should you ever lose our father’s protection before your husband comes to claim you, I promise to protect you, to give you food and drink, to shod your foot and clothe your back until you are safely married.”
She gave the proper response and added, “I hope you’ve started saving up for my clothes, and I imagine you pray I’ll get married before you’re responsible.”
“I can’t imagine a girl as pretty as you not having a husband before we know it...” said Temmin, tapering off. Pretty has nothing to do with it, does it?
Her gift was a pretty stickpin that matched the cufflinks, and by the time Temmin reached the Lovers’ Temple, the cufflinks shone at his wrists, and the stickpin held his cravat.
At the Temple, dawn would not be the start of the day; it had started even earlier than Temmin’s. People dressed in Temple garb climbed up and down the steps, carrying armloads of flowers, sweeping, polishing statues. Inside in the Great Hall, old offerings had been carted off, and racks stood before the great statue of Nerr to keep the expected deluge of offerings from flooding its feet in unruly waves of flowers. Temmin strode up to the statue, followed by a blinking footman burdened with a vast bouquet of flowers. Temmin ordered the footman to put it smack in the middle of the rack; there would be no offering greater, he thought, so it may as well have pride of place.
Temmin spoke the prayer quickly: “Blessed Lover, Brother of the Beloved, please make me strong to protect my sisters, and please send my sisters husbands.” As he walked through the Lovers’ entwined legs into the Supplicants’ Chamber, for the first time in all the years he’d recited the prayer, he thought about what it actually said. Strong to protect them, I understand that. But send them husbands? I’ve been praying for that since we were all children. Now that one of them actually is getting one, I’m not sure I like the idea. But he dismissed the thought as nonsensical; they’d always known the girls would be getting married, and not necessarily to men they’d pick on their own, though he liked Brinnid and it was plain Sedra more than liked him. Why did he have to be king of Sairland?
“There you are!” chorused Bessa, Anda and Senik. They hurried him into his Temple clothes and out the door. The Great Hall was already filling up with men making offerings. They looked to Temmin as if they were mostly barrow boys, street merchants and servants, all clutching meager clumps of flowers. It made sense, he supposed; when else were they able to come, but very early or very late? He’d never seen any ordinary persons like that when he’d gone to make his offerings at Whithorse, in fact, he’d never seen much of anyone. Whenever he went to a Temple at home, it was usually deserted but for the Temple’s clergy. It had never occurred to him before. How odd.
They reached the chambers reserved for the Gods and began setting up the various braziers and the two racks where Allis and Issak would soon hang. Temmin ran his hands briefly over the ancient wood of the Lover’s rack. He thought about the trial to come and shuddered, and he wondered at the sudden stirring between his legs. “Temmin, go fetch the Holy Ones, it’s nearly time to start,” ordered Anda.
Temmin hurried through the halls to the twin doors; a young Postulant admitted him and opened the doors to Issak’s sitting room. Framed in the doorway, he saw them standing forehead to forehead, flowers in the hands of the sister, and a small box in the hands of the brother. Issak murmured something; Allis put one arm around his neck and pressed her cheek against his. They noticed Temmin in the doorway and broke apart. “Ah, there you are,” said Issak. “Time to go?”

I hate this part, thought Temmin. He stayed well away from the strange smoke of the braziers this time. The Gods had nearly taken hold; howls of pain and longing arose from the twins, their arousal clear. Arousal struck Temmin as so very wrong here, but when Senik suddenly seized and kissed him, he returned it fiercely. When it ended, his head swam. Did I get too close to the smoke after all?
The howling stopped. The Gods were here.
“There You are!” said Neya-in-Allis as the girls released her from the rack. “Hello, Brother!”
“Hello, Sister,” Nerr-in-Issak replied. To Temmin’s surprise, they didn’t rush at one another. “This isn’t the time for that, little Prince,” said Nerr lazily, and Temmin blushed. The Gods merely embraced and exchanged a casually erotic kiss that made Temmin blush harder.
“All is ready for You, Lord,” said Anda with a low bow.
“Did you make yourself the sole woman on the list again, you bad girl?” said Nerr, throwing an arm around her plump waist as the group walked toward the main hall.
Anda laughed. “Bessa made the list this year, Lord,” she answered, “but I’m happy to serve You if You wish.”
“I am sure you are, darling,” said the God, and smacked her round ass. She let out a squeal and ran ahead; Temmin wondered how someone could stroll and run at the same time as he watched Nerr chase down the hall after her.
“Hello, Temmin,” purred a familiar, foreign voice in his ear.
“Lady,” he answered, looking down into Her eyes. They were green and glowing, but only green; he saw nothing but sympathy.
“No showings this time, dear,” She said, taking his hand. “I am sorry, you know, for what happened. But We must do what We must do, and nothing can stop what was and is to be.”
Temmin halted; the Lady let go of his hand and kept walking, looking back over Her shoulder with a smile on Her borrowed lips. “Wait! Lady, wait!” he called, striding to catch up. “Are you telling me--” He tried to force out words, but they stuck in his throat.
“Oh, sweetheart,” She said, patting his troubled face. “I know what you want to ask. Go on,” She told the rest. “We’ll catch up.” She watched them into the Great Hall, then turned to Temmin. “You can’t stop any of it, Temmin. But your part in these events is not pre-ordained. In them, you are the unknown.”
“Lady, just tell me about my mother!”
“I can’t.”
“Lady, you know everything, and you choose not to tell me?” said Temmin.
Neya closed his mouth with a kiss, then walked away into the Great Hall, her words floating behind her. “Little Prince, watch your tongue, and I’ll let you keep it. It’s a nice tongue.”
Nerr sat in state at the feet of His own statue, holding High Lover Gan’s ancient hand on the one side, and absently stroking High Beloved Malla’s thigh on the other. The half-full rack before Him displayed the many small offerings brought during the early morning hours, larger offerings brought more recently, and a few bouquets on the same scale as Temmin’s.
Temmin took his place at the back of the dais with Besss and Anda, and looked out into the ranks of worshippers kneeling before the God. He saw familiar faces--distant cousins, sons of the nobility. Behind them knelt well-dressed young men of good families, then the sons of merchants. At least that’s what Temmin assumed. Lord Fennows and his father, the Duke of Barle, knelt in the front on thick velvet cushions; how could Lord Barle still have unmarried sisters at his age, thought Temmin.
Two familiar figures approached the dais, and Temmin’s heart contracted. It was Eldest Sister Imvalda, Sarra, the Embodiment of Venna, both of whom he’d seem far too much of lately. A small procession of Postulant Sisters carrying large baskets followed behind them. While Imvalda and the other Sisters bowed, Sarra did not. “I stand in Your Sister Venna’s place, Lord,” she said, “and I thank you on Her behalf for the beautiful flowers You sent Her.” Nerr gave Sarra the traditional blessing, and she returned it, adding, “I bring you the twenty-two herbs of pleasure my Sisters and I have gathered this morning.”
“I thank you,” said Nerr, as Lovers took the baskets from the Sisters; Temmin noted that several of the women fastidiously avoided touching the Lovers’ hands.
“What’ll we do with those?” whispered Temmin to Bessa.
“Ssh!”
Next came High Priestess Emsa and the Embodiment of Harla, Trudannis. The blessings were exchanged, but no gifts. Who wants a gift from Death anyway? thought Temmin.
Finally, Neya glided up to the dais.
“Who’d you pick for the gift?” Temmin whispered to Bessa.
“Ssssh!”
Eight people followed the Goddess, four women and four men dressed in Temple garb. Temmin knew most of them only by looks, but among them were Barik and two members of his Postulancy class, Evra and Mathanus. He wouldn’t have called any of them stunningly beautiful, but there was something about each of them that was compelling: The woman with the dusky skin and deceptively drowsy expression. The plump man with the mouth that curved in such a way that the only choice was to kiss it. A woman with a back as beautiful as a marble sculpture. A small, wiry man who vibrated with intensity and yet stood very still. Barik with his huge dark eyes and manhood to match. Enormous Mathanus, tranquil and muscular. And Evra, who looked so artless that debauching her was really all one could do.
“Four of each. How very symmetrical of you, sweet Bessa!” remarked Nerr; Bessa bowed, hiding her blushing face. “Sister,” He said. His voice could not have been called loud, but it filled every corner of the Great Hall, and the gathering shook with its force. “As Your Brother, I promise to protect You, to give You food and drink, to shod Your foot and clothe Your back. All of these offerings, I give to You.” Temmin thought that Neya rarely wore either shoes or clothes, but kept the observation to himself.
“Brother,” she answered, “As your Sister, I thank You for Your protection. Will You accept My small gift?”
“Which among them shall you choose, Lord?” said Gan, amusement lighting up his wrinkled face.
Nerr rose from the cushioned seat, absently stroking His hardness. He walked down the line of potential “gifts,” stopping to kiss the irresistable mouth and slide His fingers down the perfect back. He stopped before Evra. “Oh, such a perfect bud! You.” Evra flushed with pleasure, bowed, and stood to one side. “Barik,” said the God. “We give you this present--” He slapped at the Lover’s impressive member-- “and what do you do with it all day?”
Barik grinned. “I use it to serve you, Lord, as you very well know.”
“And you do it splendidly! I haven’t had you in too long a time. Join the wholesome one.” Barik bowed and stood beside Evra, whose knees were shaking so hard her skirt wobbled; Barik slipped an arm round her waist to calm her.
Through narrowed eyes, the God examined the rest. “I seem to be in the mood for innocence, excepting that old dog Barik. You,” He said to Mathanus. “You once served My Brother Farr.”
“Yes, Lord,” said Mathanus, bowing, “but I didn’t care for killing and I didn’t want to go home.” A titter went through the worshippers. Mathanus must not have heard it; Temmin squirmed on his behalf.
“Postulant, join the other two,” said Nerr; Mathanus shambled over to stand on the other side of Barik. “I’m not seeing him...” mused Nerr, gaze sweeping across the remaining five. He turned and caught sight of the three Supplicants standing in the shadows on the dais. “Ah! Temmin!” said Nerr. “There you are!”
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As a long time lurker I must write to show my awe of your writing skill.
I wonder if you are going to keep this time line then how long will the 10 years of Temmin time be in our time i.e. RL.
delurking...
And now that you have come forward with comments, how long before you create an account and turn comments into points?
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thank you
I don't know how long it's going to take in real life. I'm hoping to do some serious time compression in the edits and in the spacing of the books. I think the next set of three will be about a year out from this one, but I don't know yet.
Oh, The Gods
Neya and Temmins little chat about the Queen made me sniffle a little (as did Sedra D: WOE), I confess. But Nerr, gosh. He makes me want to blush for Temmy!
prayers to each other
Temmin isn't on the list as the 'gift' but who would deny the gods? And how patronizing is that protection idea. It's nice that they sorta make sure the ritual promise happens each year. Image how silly it would have been when Sedra was like 12 and Temmin much younger. Him lisping his protection must have been adorable and quite annoying.
Lib fem in me getting pricked up.
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Very patronizing, indeed...
... which is hardly surprising, given how Tremontine society generally views women. But as the scene between Sedra and Temmin shows, that doesn't preclude poignancy at all.
There are some interesting potential future scenes in this chapter, both bad (Ansella) and good (Issak/Nerr, Barik, Evra, Mathanus and Teemin in one room), and therefor much to look forward to.
pondering...
How often does Nerr, or any God for that matter, choose a gift that was not part of the offering?
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A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
I disagree.
I don't think it's patronizing at all...I think it's practical. The crappy part is that women can't really make money except in a very limited fashion or own property (I assume), and are likely not taught any skills that would make them able to support themselves. The vow makes sense, as does the annual reminder of responsibility, because if something were to happen to a girl's father, she really would need the support, and yes, protection, of her brother. It sucks that society is that way, but you can't ignore reality. Until women are equal to men in their society, I think it's important to make sure that the girls are taken care of, since the boys are taught what they need to take care of themselves and girls are not.
I doubt more than a few notice
How often do we think about the prayers we say? I used to recite "Now I lay me down to sleep" every night for years as a child; it was only as an adult that I realized what the prayer actually said:
(I haven't taught that one to No1 and No2.)
My point being twofold:
1) Tremont is a sexist place. KK is quite right; it would be hard for a woman to make her own way without male protection of some kind. If a father couldn't (or wouldn't) do it, then a brother could--if he would; not everyone keeps the promise, or they keep it in a way that barely fulfills it. Some men fob their sisters off on Mother's Houses, and give a small pittance every year to the Mother's Temple ostensibly for their sisters' care. Middle and upper class women are not trained for much of anything other than being a wife, and abandonment for them almost certainly meant the clergy, mistresshood or death unless they could find the fortitude to learn a lower class trade or submit to a Mother's House (very humiliating for a genteel lady).
Lower class women always worked, as they always have and still do in our world; losing a father's or brother's protection to a working class Tremontine woman means certain poverty, though, considering a woman's wages. The best a working class woman on her own with minimal skills could hope for would be a servant's job in a good house. If they were lucky, they were clever with a needle; a few shrewd and talented "abandoned" women of all three classes have worked themselves up to real respectability as seamstresses for the gentry and owners of their own successful concerns (Ellika alone has made some of these women's fortunes). But that's not possible for everyone.
2) Most people don't face the situation at all, and don't really think about what they're saying and promising. Most men with sisters never have to care for them. Once they're married, women are the responsibility of their husbands' families, and if the husband dies, the woman is reliant on her in-laws. The outcome of that reliance is similar to the outcomes outlined above. Some are generous, some are parsimonious, and some are downright vile.
Pledges
Is there a designated pledge for siblings that are barred from traditional marriage? Do they just exchange a personal vow, or is it similar to Nerr's? I know Allis has mentioned several times that she will not be allowed to marry after her temple service. I do not recall if other temples have similar restrictions at various levels of dedication.
Are sisters that go into the service of a temple that restricts marriage considered under the protection of that temple/'married' to their embodiment? I'm just curious about how special cases could be treated on this holiday[ and this is obviously even more intense for Allis and Issak specifically, considering what they undergo].
Also, teeny typo "Temmin took his place at the back of the dais with Besss and Anda" 'Besss', rather than 'Bessa'. Go, go QWERTY.
answers
If it's impossible for a sibling to marry, there has to be a reason. The only one I can think of would be service in the Brother's or Sister's Temples. Everyone else can marry if they choose. In those cases, the sibling is considered the responsibility of the Temple, and the exchange is considered unnecessary. Brothers (in the Farrian sense) still make the full vow to their unmarried sisters; their sisters say in return that they will pray for them, period. Sisters (in the Vennan sense) do not exchange the vow with their brothers; they're provided for.
Allis is allowed to marry when her Temple service is done; it's just not likely, and it certainly wouldn't be to Temmin (which is probably what you're remembering). Her not being able to marry Temmin has nothing to do with the Temple and everything to do with the needs of the royal family.
Thanks!
That thought was planted in my head back in Book One, Chapter 18 [ http://www.meilinmiranda.com/two-kingdoms-ch-18 ]. Allis tells Temmin "You know my vows. I can't marry or have children, or be exclusive in any way. There will never be an 'us.'"
I've just been completely misinterpreting it the entire time, and thinking the restriction continued beyond her time as an Embodiment. It is nice to have that clarified and get a few more details about the other temples. I love hearing about it all.
Uh
Now that is a cliffhanger that will keep ME on my toes
Because why not?! #Oh, look, a webcomic!#
Oh wow.
It started with some tears and ended with a cackle for me.
I can't wait for Saturday.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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unless she decides to hit us
unless she decides to hit us with a bonus story instead...
I quite enjoyed this one.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
Even that
might distract me until Tuesday.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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first comment
wow, i really love your writing. i read lots of stories on the web and look at plenty of webcomics but this is by far the most engaging and beautifully written story ive come accross so far! and its only a draft too from what i gathered from the FAQ, a definate must buy when these books come to print
Welcome!
Hope to see more of you in the forum. We're a chatty bunch.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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thank you!
Yes, this is the draft. It is a dog's breakfast, to be sure, and I hope to make it a little more appetizing in the rewrite.
Then, I suppose half the fun of the site is watching the books be made in front of your nose.
tongue
Yes, he's the prince, but God trumps Pince. Let's hope he doesn't make that slip again or with a God that's not so foregiving...
Still, loved it. The tender moments with Allis and Issak and can't wait for the next chapter and Nerr's enjoyment of his 'gifts'
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Giggle
I did snigger a bit at that moment. Who best to teach a royal princeling a bit of respect then a goddess. And she does it so sweetly. No Teacher flogging student moment here, or at least not with a wooden rod.
I also liked the moment when he realizes that the people who work are only able to come at that hour because that is the free time they have. I like those moments when he realizes that luxuries he has can be as simple as time to think and enjoy himself. It made me think about the moment he read a bit of newspaper and it all seemed entirely out of his depth.
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I thought that Teacher
only used his wooden rod with Maeb.
"Thunder only happens when it's raining.
Players only love you when they're playing.
Say... Women... They will come and they will go.
When the rain washes you clean you'll know."
bah dum boom
tip your servers, folks! you've been a wonderful audience!
Hmm
This is not quite what I expected
. Odd that the brother's day seems to be more subtle sexually, at least thus far . . .though I'm not sure Temmin is going to like where this might be going 
Interesting . . .
Temmin is quite in demand
[snicker]
Between the "Awww!"s and the snickers, Neya's statement to Temmin struck me most: "You can’t stop any of it, Temmin. But your part in these events is not pre-ordained. In them, you are the unknown." Does Temmin have any idea how powerful that makes him, that his actions can have consequences that even the Gods can't foresee with certainty? I'm guessing he has no more than an inkling of the breadth of such power, but that after today ends and he can reflect on what's happened, he'll start to grasp the full scope of Neya's statement.
Also, a couple of typoes in this sentence: "It was Eldest Sister Imvalda, Sarra, the Embodiment of Venna, both of whom he’d seem far too much of lately." I'm guessing there should be an "and" between "Imvalda" and "Sarra", and that "seem" should be "seen".
reflections...
At the end of the day, I am not so sure that the statement from Neya is going to be what he is reflecting on...
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Nooo!
Agh, the cliffhanger! Is it Saturday yet? Or Tuesday? How deliciously wicked!
What a fascinating ceremony though. When you compare this idea to our present day American sense of individuality it's very startling in difference. Although now many families place the responsibility of protection on the oldest child, be it male or female. I had one friend tell me her youngest sister is very artsy and lives in her head, but that if the little one ever found herself down in life she always would have the two older ones to rely one.
How would this ceremony work if a sister has many brothers? Does it fall to the oldest brother? Or do each make the promise?
I love learning about the holidays
and how each God/Goddess is honored on their day. The interaction between Temmin and Sedra was lovely - I've been in such a sentimental mood lately, I cried a little when I went to see Up! Thanks for tugging my heartstrings.
Loved this chapter, and Saturday/Tuesday/whateverday can't come soon enough!
Imperfection is beauty; Madness is genius.
And it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring.
Me too
Loved this chapter, and Saturday/Tuesday/whateverday can't come soon enough!
I agree. All the special days and their ceremonies (see? I'm quite sure I just invented that word xD) show a great deal of thought behind them, and they draw me even more into the story.
Now I just want to see Temmin's reaction... and everybody else's.
Never give a sword to a man who cannot dance.
oh I think we will know
oh I think we will know his reaction...
Temmy: *blush* W-W-What!? *faint*
prophecy...
Hey, loved and beloved of the Gods. He's got to know that they are all going to want a piece of him eventually...
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A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
If you mean the word
If you mean the word "ceremonies" - nope, you made it plural exactly as a native English speaker would expect. You really are very fluent; don't worry about it!
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"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
The comment about making the word up
actually threw me off (wait, what?) until I realized who posted it. Possibly the icon change confused me, since it was originally the teacher icon. That or I'm misremembering/nuts.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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Uh... probably...
I remember having problems choosing between Allis and the Teacher (I want Teacher... but oh, that quote... but maybe...), so it may well be that I changed it. I don't remember
(and yay! I make up "correct" words!
)
Never give a sword to a man who cannot dance.
There is
another Teacher icon in the banners and icons gallery (can be accessed through the gallery link at the top) with a different quote on it. You could always save it to your computer and then upload it in your account settings.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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I loved Up
...and cried all through the opening sequence. Sentimental, me.
As did I
That opening sequence is how I want my life to be. I'm about to cry just thinking about it...it's just so damn sweet!
Quite possibly my favorite quote yet
Would have to be “Little Prince, watch your tongue, and I’ll let you keep it. It’s a nice tongue.”
Why don't we have gods like this!?
because the real world
because the real world is cruel. I would have joined the lover temple if I had a shot of actually being able to join them.
I second! Not two weeks ago I
I second! Not two weeks ago I was complaining to a fellow MeiLin reader "why isn't there such a thing as Lovers' Temple in the real word?" I'd so love to go and learn there...
I knew it!
I knew it (well I'm guessing everyone knew it) that little Temmy would be picked. Nerr could have any gift he wants, it doesn't have to be the ones that were chosen for him of course. Still, it's gonna be funny, Temmy won't know what to do. XD Though I am a little surprised he picked Mathanus.
At the same time I am wondering how one of our favorite twins is reacting to the God picking Temmy too.
I kind of wonder if...
Nerr picked Temmin because he knows Issak wants him. Not that what Issak thinks matters. :3
Edit: I'd be more curious to see what Harsin thinks, after his reaction to Temmin telling him he spent his first night at the temple with Issak and not Allis. xD
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
I think
Nerr picked Temmy because both Issak and Nerr want him! =D
Still, I bet a lot of people are going to wonder why Nerr picked Temmy, but I think this isn't the first time Nerr did something like this.
After a read over though I noticed that Senik kissed Temmy, I'm guessing he saw his arousal and decided to do something about it huh?
Damn it why the cliffhanger? WHY!?
From what we've seen of Senik
Particularly in that bonus story, my guess would be it was more for his own satisfaction than any concern for Temmin's state.
I really can't wait until we get to see Senik's portrait. I've voted for it whenever there's been a poll. He's my favorite of the Temple cast.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Well I'm thinking maybe he
Well I'm thinking maybe he did it for the both of them, Temmy surely returned the favor of course.
Though I want Bessa, it be nice to see how she actually looks too.
do the Embodiments have any
do the Embodiments have any memory of what happens to them when they're possessed? I can't remember... If not, then it doesn't in the least matter whether Issak wants Tem or not, as he wouldn't remember a thing 0o
also, if Nerr chose Temmin because of anything outside of his own whimsy, I'd say it'd be because of Tem's earlier doubts about the whole Nerr's Day business, fear of being chosen and/or taken by the God -- I'd say Nerr could have done it to sort of tease Temmin, to see what he's going to do when made face the situation. but as He's a God, we may as well speculate ad infinitum ;P
I think in one of the Neya's
I think in one of the Neya's Day scenes, one of the twins reassures the other with the reminder that the gods always leave them with the good memories to repay the physical toll of possession.
I am trying to find the passage, but I am having trouble remembering if it was a main story, a bonus story, or even which generation of Embodiments it may have been.
Edit!
Here we go http://www.meilinmiranda.com/service-of-the-gods
Looks like it was probably Nerr's Day, actually, but the last pair of Embodiments shared this regarding their possession:
“Oh, I look forward to torture a great deal,” Hendas answered, rolling his blue eyes. “And I never know how much I’ll remember.”
“They always leave us the good bits, sweetheart,” said Idia.
Hendas gave her a meditative smile and played with a strand of his fair hair. “I suppose They do,” he said.
My guess would be that it depends on the particular god/embodiment/situation, but they do seem to be able to remember what the gods want them to remember.
thanks :)
I tend to forget about the bonus stories ^^' I'm actually more than sure that I've never read this one - hence the doubt.
But I still don't think the Embodiment's private lusts have a significant impact on the God's choice of offering...
Their lack of lusts
have had an impact on the God's choices. That's also in a bonus story. Issak's come a long way since then for all outward appearances. Maybe he gets a reward occasionally.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
isn't harsin an eddinite?
Wouldn't that mean he's well aware of the male love and fighting force they are? Also wasn't Sedra going to be a devotee of that temple?
Or am a totally confused?
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not sure but
aren't you mistaking Eddin for Farr here?
Yes, Farr...
Is the lover of men. Eddin is too preoccupied with the law and more cerebral pursuits to be chasing women around all the time, which is probably where the confusion came from. Harsin had a deliciously shocked reaction, and for as much of an ass he can be about others' thoughts and feelings, that particular scene gave me some impish glee, because it was clear that at least the suddenness of the revelation made him uncomfortable.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
This is what I get for an eight-god pantheon
Quick overview:
Pagg = Father = Law, Order, Status Quo
Amma = Mother = Mothers, Children, Domestic Agriculture, the Sea and Sailors, Weaving
Eddin = Wise One = Technology, Learning, Trickery, the Intersexed
Venna = Sister = Home, Health, Spinning, Lesbians
Farr = Brother = War, Protection, Drinking, Gay Men
Harla = Bloody One = Death, Wild Animals, Hunters
Nerr = Lover = Pursuit of Pleasure, Fiction, Drama
Neya = Beloved = Object of Pleasure, Poetry, Song
Now I'm glad
I'm not Tremontine. If I were, then being a poet I would have to commit to the Lover's Temple, (as you just specified that poetry is Neya's domain), and that is impossible, as I'm probably asexual (and also quite prudish in RL).
you wouldn't have to commit to anything
You'd just have to make the occasional offering. Which in Neya's case is sweets.
Well then...
Being a writer will give me fun with Nerr, oh boy.
“Ah! Temmin!” said Nerr.
“Ah! Temmin!” said Nerr. “There you are!”
Temmin Faints.
On the bright side, at least
On the bright side, at least he didn't call him Temmy
I suggest
Temmikins ;3
Can anyone point me to the
Can anyone point me to the chapter in which we are introduced to Evra? (Tried the tags but the current chapter was the only result). I cannot seem to remember anything about this character, and I assume since her name was used, we have met her before.
It's in the same chapter
It's in the same chapter where we meet Mathanus and Davik-the-character (not Davik-the-cook/wannabe-world-conqueror) when Temmin starts taking classes with the other Postulants.
And... I found it. Evra herself shows up down the page a ways. Book two, ch. 44: http://www.meilinmiranda.com/queen-who-ruled-ch44
Supreme Minister of All Livestock
"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
Thank you! Started at the
Thank you! Started at the beginning of book two because I could not remember when Temmin began his postulancy, and got sidelined rereading the chapters. By the time it occurred to me to make use of the search function, the link was here!
Unrelated, but every time I see this chapter's title, "There he is," it plays in my head to the Miss America theme.
New chapter, new chapter!
Yay!
And such a touching one... I loved Temmin and Sedra... Especially since we know that Brinnid isn't so happy with his Lady Fair at the moment... And after Temmin was so afraid he would be on the "list", to still be asked for by Nerr is sooo perfect... Although, come to think of it, Nerr may not want Temmin as a gift, though it does look that way. I'm leaning towards Him wanting Temmin for something else entirely, although I will happily accept being wrong...
I'm waiting for the next chapter! 
To be fair...
I think Nerr did warn Temmin last Neya's day that Temmin was going to be in for a ride. Or rather, in all likelyhood, ridden. =D
Indeed, and I think since the
Indeed, and I think since the Gods rarely come to the mortal plane, Nerr remembers saying that to dear sweet Temmy very clearly. =D
Squee
I heart Nerr. And I cannae wait for the next pooooooossssst.
"There is an art, a knack for flying. This knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss!"--DNA
I do wonder though...
Will we see Neya's side of the whole day and what she has to do?
depends...
Being that the day if from the POV of either Temmin or Nerr so far, probably not. Unless Temmin asks or Mei is feeling very gracious...
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
I've touched on it briefly
...but an actual, uh, blow-by-blow account might have to wait for a bonus story. It really doesn't have anything to do with the plot. (I canhear you fanfic people out there yelling "PLOT? WHAT PLOT?" Don't think I can't.
)
hahahaha
"blow-by-blow" account. aha. I can wait for it.
Though yeah...what plot?
Neya = MeiLin
Her mannerisms, personality, and vibe struck me as very YOU in this chapter. In a very good way on all accounts, obviously.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
oh good heavens
I don't think so. I don't go around kissing young men. OK, Sir is ten years younger, but that's not what I mean!
The way she talked, her gentle wisdom and empathy...
that's what reminded me so strongly of you.
She's very nurturing.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
Now you are my hero
You married a man ten years younger than you! This is so cool! Forgive my immature glee on this subject, but I love to see couples that go against sexist standarts, including the "a man in the couple must be older than the woman".
Not that I know for sure...
but I don't think that's a sexist standard. I think it just became common, because women tend to look for a provider, or at least someone who's well established. That usually means older. Even without the Victorian attitudes of women being frivolous things with no sense, you don't want to marry someone who can't even take care of himself. O.o;
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
In addition to Raigne's
In addition to Raigne's comment, women (or so I gather) mature faster than men--so to marry someone even in maturity, women (on average) have to marry older.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
I thought about adding that...
but most of the women I know make shitty choices in the men they choose, so every woman I've seen who has been with a man of equal maturity in my life has been an exception, not a rule.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
I find that's generally true
I find that's generally true in my experience, too.
With the exception of my husband, who's a year and change younger than me
Ah, individual variation...
And no, I don't know if that makes me immature for my age or him more mature for his age. I like to think it's the latter =P (And of course, I'm *sure* the latter is also true for MeiLin...
)
Supreme Minister of All Livestock
"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
Oh, I'm definitely immature
...and he's an old fogey.
We meet somewhere in the middle.
Re: Neya = MeiLinn & Good Heavens
Seriously There are just so many things to love about the chapter,
- The poignancy of the vows between Temmy & Sedra.
- The Honesty Elika shows in her comment about her expensive wardrobe.
- The way Temmin suddenly really doesn't want his sister to be married and move so far away.
- Neya telling Temmin to be careful or lose his "nice tongue."
- Nerr seeking Temmin out to be his gift.
- Letting that be a huge cliff hanger that will keep us all begging for more.
I do so love reading this story.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
next story
Next chapter will probably be about Brinnid, or one of the other plot-lines.
As has been said before,
Wow! Sarcasm! That's original!
Snrk
I forgot about that, but I wonder if Temmin has. Oh, Senik, we would not be nearly as amused without you.
I bet
he hasn't.
Have to wonder
If that's one of those apocryphal tales meant to frighten the newbies. Like rooms in a castle that appear & disappear at random. You know .. "can he be frightened off by this story??... Can he keep his cool with this running through the back of his mind?... Let's test the prince's nerves." kind of stuff.
Still a grave stone that reads Peckered to death by the god Nerr has to be able to draw curious gawkers from miles around.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
I wouldn't put it past Senik
to do that, but even tales of that nature often have a basis in truth, and is it that difficult to believe?
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
definitely pokin' the newbies
It's a true story, but Senik delights in frightening Postulants and new servants with the story whenever it's time for the Gods to come down.
I love Senik.
I just want to chase him around with a wet towel xD
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
he
would want you to do that too, as long as you weren't wearing the towel.
No.
What I would be doing with the towel would be accompanied by a very distinct *snapping* sound.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
I figured
I doubt it
The gods seem pretty well omniscient when it comes to the future (except for wildcard Temmikins) and mortal's thoughts (even wildcard Temmikin's). It's my belief that at least once, somewhere over the years, someone either:
1) Thought "Wow! That feels so good I could just die!" and then "Oh crap, what's Harla doing here?!?!"
2) Had an unusual kink about being fucked to death, had lived a long and fulfilling life, and "Really, he wanted that..." would sound weak to a grieving wife and family, even coming from a god.
The death was probably real. And Senik has far too much fun with it for his own good.
Wow! Sarcasm! That's original!
Holidays
Kind of a random question, MeiMei, but I assume the gods manifest in the embodiments of Sairland's temples as well on the same days. Are they capable of possessing multiple people at the same time? Do the Sairs get visited at different times? How does this work?
Furthermore, does every god manifest on their own holiday in the capital? (Plus Neya and Nerr on each other's). How do the other gods' holidays get celebrated? There's so much about this world you've created and its gods that I'd like to know.
I'm no end table, I'm a nightstand.
very good questions. color
very good questions. color me particularly curious about the Gods' appearances in multiple places simultaneously.
It's supposed to be a challenge, that's why they call it a shortcut. If it was easy it would just be the way.
--Road Trip
"Funny. Terrible, but funny." (that's typically my aim)
-NorthwoodsMan
Sairland and the Embodiments
Sadly, they do not take a Sairish Embodiment. Rarely they'll make unscheduled appearances in Sairland (usually Harla and Amma, and to random priestesses at that), but the official Embodiments live in the Tremontine capital. Once they lived in Deneen, but then the power in the world shifted.
As to the other holidays, yes, on Farr's Day Farr takes His Embodiment and so on. Very condensed sketches (there is more to these than this):
Eddin's Day is celebrated with the exchange of gifts, especially to children. The calendar for the next year is announced; the Magister is responsible for maintaining the calendar and predicting astronomical events.
Amma's Day is celebrated with a blessing of domestic animals--everything from pet cats to draft horses--and gifts to mothers.
Pagg's Day is a solemn occasion in which the Law is read in its entirety--at least, it starts on Pagg's Day. It takes at least a week for the Fathers to read out the Law from beginning to end, reading 24 hours a day. Only the most devout attend. More secularly, fathers are honored.
Neya's Day and Nerr's Day we've covered.
Venna's Day is celebrated with a blessing of beehives and the ceremonial beginning of the flax harvest.
Farr's Day is celebrated with great tourneys and displays of strength and cunning. Weaponers display their finest work. The paint on shields is traditionally restored, and war banners fly from every home.
Harla's Day is celebrated with parties and offerings of grain and milk left out on the back steps for spirits. It's common for the parties to be masked, the masks being of different spirits. If the bodies of the dead have decayed down to the bone, the bones are added to the family ossuaries in the local Temple. Families clean the ossuaries themselves, and usually stay to tell their ancestors all the news of the previous year.
Wow C O O L
I see that some of your deities & their celebrations bare mild to moderate resemblances to a few Gods & Goddess of old.
Venna in many ways reminds me of Hera.
Harla is a bit like Athena & Breaguilda combined.
Farr reminds me a bit of Thor
Edden could be a bit like Oden / Zuess
Amma Could be a bit like Brinnid
Neya & Nerr are more like a hindu couple who's names escape me at the moment than I care to comment on.
Maybe I've just studied far to much mythology, I almost feel at home thinking about the deities in this world. If women were not so oppressed I could happily live in this world.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
As seen in the Kamasutra
Neya & Nerr are more like a hindu couple who's names escape me at the moment than I care to comment on.
Shakti and Shiva perhaps?
Those are the ones I had in
Those are the ones I had in mind. Thank you. Have a point.
Anything that kills your inner-song is always going to be bad for you. - Personal Wisdom
bases (basises?) :D
These are the Gods the Tremontine pantheon are inspired by:
Pagg: Various father gods, especially Zeus and Thor, without the grand passions and lightning/thunder. Confucius, to a degree, though he was not a God.
Amma: Every mother Goddess ever, but a good deal influenced by Frigga, one of my own Ladies. (She made me start spinning, and She's rather pissed at the condition of my house. Spinning in my pantheon got moved to Venna.)
Eddin: Odin, Loki, Coyote, Prometheus, Apollo (though Farr got the Sun God part, and Nerr and Neya got the art parts). Eddin is God of learning, technology, and deceit--usually playful deceit, but not always.
Venna: Vesta, Athena, Hygiea and Her sisters, Diana (though Diana's hunting aspect was given to Harla).
Farr: Thor, Tiw, the Shao-Lin monks.
Harla: Hel, Ereshkigal, the Valkyries, Diana, and Death from Mr Gaiman's comix.
Nerr and Neya: Freyr and Freya, Osiris and Isis, many other brother/sister pairings.
In my research I discovered the Goddess Philyra, who apparently was the Goddess of Perfume.
I had wondered...
if the Brothers' fighting style was drawn from the Shao-lin monks.
And the trickster made me think of Hermes. :3
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
him too
Lotsa trickster gods.
Sort of a tangent
but since you specifically mentioned Frigga, what is your personal take on Freya/Frigg? Two aspects of the same goddess, or two Ladies of their own?
Just a pet curiosity of mine.
different Ladies
entirely, at least in my understanding. Freya is reported doing things that I can't imagine Frigga doing, and vice versa. Frigga is known for knowing and not telling. I don't get that vibe from Freya. There's also the domestic thing. Love goddesses usually don't do domestic.
But I'm not a pre-Christian Norsewoman. I'm just a 21st century Euro-mutt.
Sign me up for Eddin. I
I really should get around to making an account someday.....
Yes, yes you should. Then
Yes, yes you should. Then you can get points and regular forum-warm fuzzies =)
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"Use, do not abuse. Neither abstinence nor excess renders man happy." - Voltaire
minor edit?
"Two familiar figures approached the dais, and Temmin’s heart contracted. It was Eldest Sister Imvalda, Sarra, the Embodiment of Venna, both of whom he’d seem far too much of lately"
Seem?
edits
You're absolutely right, but at this point I'm not editing these drafts for such mistakes. I'm in the middle of drastic rewrite of the Whole Damn Thing. This is the quintessential Shitty First Draft you've been reading (and thank you for doing so!).
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If you'll excuse the farce and conjecture.
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