TheFerret's Points Story | Three Princesses: Finnia, part one
Connin had become boastful in his old age. He told many stories of his own cunning, and the dozens of princesses he’d bedded--though he never named names. But as his mother said whenever she was in earshot, that was hardly true. In Connin’s more than 900 years, there had been only three.
The first was Finnia.
Finnia was the daughter of King Warin the Second, called Wise, and Queen Emmae. As the last of twelve, she was much petted, but never spoiled, and given many freedoms as long as she remained within the safe boundaries of Tremont Keep and its grounds. Whenever her father wasn’t waging war on another kingdom, she was even allowed to walk in the King’s Woods, so long as she kept clear of the Travelers who camped there. Her father would always say, “The Travelers helped me gain my throne and your mother, and they have the run of the Woods, but I’ll never turn my back on them. Stay away from them, Finnia.”
Finnia did as she was told--mostly. Along with blue eyes and a straight nose, Finnia had inherited her mother’s stubborn chin, and her father’s guile. When her curiosity was aroused, she satisfied it, and was rarely if ever found out.
Even so, she avoided the bright wagons, or at least stayed out of sight. Finnia was not averse to climbing trees, and would clamber up an oak to watch the Travelers in their camp; they played and sang with such sprightliness that it was all Finnia could do sometimes to keep herself from leaping from her refuge and dancing with them. The women’s brilliant skirts twirled as they stamped their bare feet, bells jingling at their hips and ankles. It was like nothing at court, and Finnia loved their wildness.
She spent several summers like this, eating apples and cheese in the boughs of the oak. She was never caught by either her family or the Travelers, until one day in her sixteenth year. She knew she was too old for climbing trees, but she did it anyway; old habits died hard with her, and she’d grown used to spending summer days watching the people she’d come to think of as friends. Children who’d been babies when she began watching were now darting through the camp, chasing each other with sticks and rolling around in the dirt and leaves like puppies.
On the day she was caught, all but one of the band had gone early into town to trade and entertain, all crowded onto three caravans. One man was left to mind the fire and the remaining horses, the rusty-haired one named Connin. Finnia thought him quite the best-looking of the Traveler men, handsomer than the nobles at court who’d begun to make noises about marrying her. Odd, though, that he’d be the one left alone; Finnia knew he was the son of the Travelers’ leader--how strange, to be ruled by a woman!
When he seemed sure he was alone, Connin snagged a pottery jug cooling in the nearby creek; Finna had to crane to see what he was doing. To her surprise, he didn’t go back into the camp, but laid himself out in the clearing near her tree, lying in the dappled sun on a bed of grass with a cushion under his head. He took a swig from the small jug, let out a long, contented sigh, and then did the last thing she ever expected. He unfastened his leggings, and took out his cock.
She knew that’s what it was, because she had six brothers. When the younger ones had still been small, they had all played together naked in a dammed-up bit of the creek that ran closer to the Keep. She’d never seen a grown man’s before.
Once she got over her initial shock, she leaned forward, wondering what on earth he was about; as she watched, he pulled at it, again and again, until it stuck straight out. I had no idea they did that, she thought. She’d always wondered how it all went; her mother had told her somewhat how it went, and that she shouldn’t have anything to do with it until she was married or else she wouldn’t pass her Sister’s Temple examination, and that when the time came she wouldn’t find it unpleasant, and that in the end she’d have a baby from it. She reflected that her mother had twelve babies, so she must have liked it at least that much.
Connin gave it a long, easy stroke, playing with the loose skin around its tip, and groaned--almost a growl. The tip was quite red. “You’d have an easier time looking at it, Princess, if you’d just come down from that tree,” he said. “I’ll let you look your fill. You can even touch it if you’d like.”
Finnia shrank into the branches, hoping to avoid being seen even as she knew it was too late. “Finnia,” he said, “we’ve always known you were up there watching us. Come down.”
“You knew?” she squeaked, peering down through the oak leaves.
“Of course we did!” he said. “Who d’you think we are? Bumpkins? We’re always on our guard--we’re not well-regarded, you know.”
He stroked himself lazily, rolling the skin around the tip up and then down again. It was nearly hypnotic, and Finnia was intensely curious about it. “Does it hurt?” she finally said.
“Hurt?” said Connin. “No, girl, it doesn’t hurt! In fact--” he arched up slightly and shook it at her, his fist at its base-- “it’s the source of all pleasure. Come down, pretty Finnia!”
“If I come down, Traveler, do you promise not to hurt me?” she said as imperiously as she could.
Connin laughed. “With your nose in the air, you remind me greatly of your mother.”
“My mother? You’ve never met my mother!”
“Oh, indeed?” he said. “I promise if you come down I won’t hurt you.”
“You won’t tell anyone I’ve been watching you, will you?”
“Never in life would I do such a thing,” said Connin. She climbed down, holding her dresses closed as best she could; just before she reached the ground, though, her hems caught on the bark and lifted high enough that she was certain he’d seen more than he should have. She hastily tugged them back down. “Now, tell me,” he smirked as she hung back against the oak, “why have you spent your summers sitting in a tree and watching us?”
Finnia colored. “I just like to watch you all. Your life is very different from life in court.”
“Better?”
“No,” said Finnia thoughtfully. “No, not better. I don’t think traveling from place to place and wondering where your next meal will come from is better than living at court. But court is boring. It’s stuffy. No one’s having any fun. You can’t speak your mind, not really. I envy your women, it seems as if they can do fairly well as they please.”
“And you can’t?”
“Of course I can’t!” she laughed, forgetting the situation entirely at the absurdity of his question. “I have to be good and stay quiet and nod politely when these muttonheads who want to marry me prattle on about how important they are back in their own holdings, as if I didn’t know exactly who and what they are.”
“I should never have suspected such a restricted life, what with you up in a tree eating apples all day.”
“How d’you know I eat apples!”
“You throw the cores down, goose.” He said nothing more, and went back to stroking himself, while she watched in blushing fascination. “Come now,” he crooned. “A little closer, don’t you wish to see better? I promise I won’t so much as touch you. You can watch your fill.”
“What will happen?” she said, creeping forward.
“What has your mother told you?”
“I know enough to know I shouldn’t come any nearer to you, else I won’t pass my examination.”
“Ah, Finnia, no, no! No, there are many ways to find pleasure that won’t jeopardize your exam! This is just one of them.”
“But I don’t have a--I’m not--”
“Hush, I’ll show you. Just watch me now.” Connin spit in his hand, and stroked himself in earnest; his gaze shifted from his straining cock to Finnia’s transfixed face and back again. How fast his hand moves, she thought.
Why was it so thrilling to watch him? An urge built inside her, welling from between her legs up her body until she brought her shoulders forward in a shiver. She’d felt this before, when she first started noticing men, but never this intensely. He was pulling his foreskin over the head of his cock now, over and over, so fast and so brutally she couldn’t believe it didn’t hurt. As if in answer to her thoughts, he said, “It feels very good, Finnia, look at me, you bring me such pleasure just standing there, so beautiful, ah...” His words disappeared into ragged breaths, then groans, then full-throated shouts as suddenly something white spurted from his twitching cock, covering his hand and belly. His strokes lessened, slicked with the fluid now, his cock still hard but softening even as she watched. Connin lay his head back against the cushion, sighing. He closed his eyes, and almost appeared dead.
Finnia had unconsciously moved much closer, and now she dropped to her knees. “Are you all right?” she said, touching his shoulder timidly.
Connin opened one eye, blue and merry. “Never better, love, never better. And how are you?” Finnia jerked her hand back. He laughed, pulling a great linen kerchief from around his neck, and began mopping himself off. “Well? Was that what you thought it would be?”
She shrugged minutely. “I didn’t know what it would be. I’m still not entirely sure,” she said in a small voice. “You say I can do that?”
“You’ve never touched yourself there, I collect?” said Connin. She shook her head. He clacked his tongue. “If more mothers taught their daughters to do so, it would save the world a parcel of grief. You do not have one of these,” he said, shaking his now-soft penis at her, “but you do have what the Mother gave you, and what the Lovers wish you to become well-acquainted with. May I see? I promised you I wouldn’t touch you, but if I’m to teach you what I can, I need to see.”
Finnia moved an arm’s length away. He was a stranger. She shouldn’t. She shouldn’t show any man until she was married. But he wasn’t a stranger. He was Connin. She’d known him for years, or so she felt, though they’d never spoken. And who would know if she showed him? The Sister’s Temple examination looked only for virginity; there was no way to test whether she’d shown a man her body. She lifted her knees enough to free her skirts, then slowly pulled them up to her waist.
“Oh, very pretty, love. Now, the first thing I want you to do is slip a finger just inside those sweet folds between your legs.” She did so, and pulled it out almost immediately; she was burning hot inside, and gushing. “Ah, you found my little show inspiring,” he laughed as he saw her wet finger. “Back between with it. I want you to find the little knob at the top of that pretty slit of yours.”
It didn’t take long. As soon as her finger brushed across it, she knew she’d found it. The urge that had crept up her body now rushed down at once to the little knob and then out again, more fiercely than before. She gasped, and nearly doubled over.
“That,” said Connin, “is your little pearl. I believe the Sisters call it the clitoris, but I prefer the other.”
“If I touch it,” she quavered, “will it do what yours did?”
“No, no,” he said, “though you may wet yourself thoroughly--you already have. Your pearl cannot be handled so roughly as I handle myself. Circle your finger round and round it, without quite touching it--try that.” She did so; a melting warmth flowed from the finger’s circles that paradoxically built up a tension inside her like a bowstring. She groaned, and her dress grew tight against her newly swollen nipples. “Move your finger any way you please,” he murmured. “You’ll find which ways are your favorite.”
She used two fingers, desperate to reach the place that seemed to be rushing toward her and away from her at the same time. Her breasts ached--why do they ache when nothing’s touching them? she wondered dimly. Thoughts broke into bits she couldn’t piece back together; instead, she focused on the quick movements of her fingers, closing her eyes. She could almost touch that place, it was within reach; sweat trickled down between her breasts and her legs trembled, until suddenly she had it--she was there. The bowstring inside her released; her hips rose up as she cried out in astonishment, eyes still shut tight.
She circled her fingers slower and slower; one finger brushed across what Connin had called her pearl; she nearly shrieked at its tenderness, and withdrew her fingers altogether. She collapsed onto her thighs, holding herself up off the ground with both hands. “Here, now,” said Connin. He made her sip from the jug of cool wine, and guided her head onto the cushion. “I said I wouldn’t touch you, but it’s unfair to leave you in a little shaking heap, when you could be at rest and comfortable.”
Finnia lay on the grass, still trembling. Her breasts throbbed, her nipples hard against the linen of her underdress; she realized Connin could see them even through her overdress when he casually circled one of them with his thumb, sending shocks through her. “That’s a sign there’s more in you, you know--more of that pleasure. Men need time before they can spend again--what I did, the great fountain of it, that’s called spending. But women can spend many, many times for a man’s one.”
“It’s sore now,” she whispered. “I couldn’t touch it again.”
“May I show you something? I promise it won’t hurt, and that the Sisters will never know. I promise it will give you great pleasure, even greater than what you gave yourself.” Without waiting for an answer, he slipped down between her legs, raising the fabric of her dresses higher. He kissed her soft round belly, then slipped his tongue inside her.
She sighed, first in surprise and then in contentment as his gentle tongue lapped soothingly over her, delicately avoiding the sensitive spot, until the sensitive spot demanded it become part of the tongue’s path. She shifted, and Connin caught her meaning; he slid his hands under her hips and grasped the cheeks of her ass. He nuzzled in closer, his tongue probing everywhere inside her.
Never had she experienced anything so pleasurable. Never dancing, never wandering through the woods, never in any of the things she loved had she found anything like this. I want this forever, she thought. I want this feeling forever. Warmth, waves of warmth that soothed and agitated in equal measure, radiated out from his tongue. She lay with her eyes closed, moving against his face to guide him, until finally he gripped her tightly, focusing on her pearl, sucking at it just enough to make her pulse beneath him. Her knees rose involuntarily toward her shoulders. She cried out on each breath, until he took one finger and tickled her just inside her inner folds. The waves of warmth broke over her, burning her; her legs pulled up as high as they could go, and Connin held on to her hips to the end.
As soon as her sobbing ended and her legs relaxed, though, he began again, the slow lapping that lulled her into languidness until the intensity built and released again. Three times he brought her that way, until she begged him to stop. “Please,” she said, “I must go home.”
Connin watched her stand and brush the grass and leaves from her dress. “Will you come back, pretty Finnia? The rest will be gone for two more days, and even when they’ve returned, we can meet away from the camp. There is so much I can show you.”
“I don’t know,” she said. “I don’t know.” She turned and fled toward the Keep.
But in her bed that night, her hand kept creeping down between her legs, or to her breasts.
The next morning, she set off early for the Travelers’ camp, and she didn’t come home until nearly dark.
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Wow...
(Yay, first comment!
) Very interesting... And I loved the way it ends! But correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't Emmae have been the first? Princess, that is? Unless the counting starts with willing Princesses?
counting
...starts with TREMONTINE princesses.
Eww
I just can't forget the fact that Connin raped Emmae, so him going sexual with her daughter (albeit a willing one) feels like some twisted form of incest to me. I have two questions about this piece:
1. Is this the same Finnia that became a Supplicant to the Lover's Temple, and later a High Beloved (as mentioned in The Sacred Mind and the Secular Mind bonus story)?
2. From Emmae's warnings to her daughter we can presume that at that time in Tremont history the rule that a princess must be a virgin to marry was already established. How did Emmae herself was married twice with noone rising a fuss over her lack of virginty? She first married Hildin the Usurper (who was recognised as heir at that time), yet this queen to be was not subjected to Sister's Temple exam, and no bloodied scarf was demanded after the wedding night. And while the first time around they could still keep the matter a secret, at her second, willing marriage to Warin, it was obvious to anyone she wasn't a virgin, being a widow, yet again no objections were made about the king marrying a non-virgin. I didn't asked this before, as I assumed the rules were not yet established in Emmae's time, but now I see they were, so how did her two marriages were allowed?
Answers...
... or at least a solid bit of speculation.
1. Yes, probably, although I figure that Gan's remark about it having been 700 years ago would then underestimate things by half a century or so.
2. I think that Hildin found a way around this, seeing as he certainly sampled her treasures before their marriage as well. Since he himself didn't care about her virginity, it probably took but an appropriate donation to the Sister's Temple to straighten things out.
answers
1. Yes. This story takes place in 207 KY, when Finnia is 16. She was the baby Emmae was carrying in "Favor of the Gods," which takes place in 191 KY. Warin, to give you an idea, is around 68 at the time of this story and has three more years to rule before his oldest son Gethin the Third takes the throne. Gan was a little off in his casual estimation, but he could rattle off exact dates if he wanted to.
2. Temples can be bribed, especially by ruthless rulers like Hildin. The virginity rule doesn't count with widows, especially the widow of one's brother.
I think...
it's probably been mentioned before, but the idea that the years are listed as "191 *KY*" cracks me up every time i see it.
Your eww is my ohh.
Funny, that makes both Connin and this situation all the hotter for me!
/twisted
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rape?
I suppose it is a form of rape, but honestly, I really don't see it that way. Edmerka had several opportunities to get herself out of the situation with Connin but she kept being obnoxious. She wouldn't pay for her fortune in money or even in a kiss.
What defines rape? Particularly where magic is involved...? I'm NOT saying Edmerka deserved to be raped, just that she certainly was not blameless.
Rape is (as far as most
Rape is (as far as most places' law goes)
Carnal knowledge without consent.
Obviously, carnal knowledge isn't the issue here.
Consent, though, is a (fascinating) issue here.
She did consent, but was it valid? Would the coercion OR the enchantment negate it? I don't know. (I think probably so. I come down on the side of rape, as a legal matter.)
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In my mind...
I modernize the magic by associating it with drugs. If you drugged someone to make them super horny, and then took advantage of it, it's still rape. Just because someone is a total bitch, doesn't mean that they deserve to be raped, or even that it's not rape if you take advantage of them.
I agree that Edmerka deserved some kind of punishment and needed to be put in her place, and that maybe the situation she found herself in made her a better person eventually, but I imagine it was still traumatic and I'm not sure I can say anyone *deserves* that, even if it provided the catalyst for change for the better.
I could see that...
but I'm surprised you find Connin attractive outside of that. The Travelers don't seem very clean, and that really puts me off him. The royalty interest me more in general because they have both a feeling of power and they apparently take a lot of baths.
Oh ho ho!
See, this is the power of fantasy. Viggo Mortenson as Aragorn in LotR, for instance. Grimy, dirty, wandering around Middle Earth for months at a time showerless, no doubt soapless, and before the invention of the toothbrush. Probably smells like a wet dog who's rolled in French cheese.
In terms of watching a movie, though? Hot. As. Hell.
Don't get me wrong, dirt doesn't bother some people even in real life, but for the rest of us, the lovely layer of imagination that comes between a description and the real thing allows us to find attractive and roguish what we would find repellent in the flesh, so to speak.
Summary: Connin is hot because I don't have to wash his underwear.
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Excellent point.
PERFECT example. Although I think his grunginess adds to his appeal, somehow. Undoubtably one of the hottest characters ever in any film.
I also have a well-developed fantasy involving a completely filthy mechanic and myself in a pristine white dress. I don't think I'd ever actually be able to handle it but it sorts of twists my OCD in the right way so that it's an incredibly hot fantasy.
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Grungy works on the really really gorgeous guys.
Another example that comes to mind, aside from the delicious Viggo: Jude Law in "Enemy at the Gates". His sexiness grew in direct proportion to how dusty and sweaty he got as the movie progressed. Rawr.
Heterosexuality is not normal, it's just common. --Dorothy Parker
I'd like to point out
Aragorn DOES bath a few times and is clean in times he could get laid
I mean... I can't explain in, but he's the type you expect will come clean to bed, probably smelling of some secret Elves' oil 
Conning on the other hand seems like a type to come on you with grass in his hair and sand in his underwear.
Because why not?! #Oh, look, a webcomic!#
Connin doesn't seem dirty to me.
I'm not sure where you got that impression, or if I have repressed it?
I also lol'ed at " hey apparently take a lot of baths".
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Well...
That was quite a story, thanks!
It makes me feel that Connin isn't always awful.
Always awful
no, but I'm still not convinced he ever acts in anyone's interests but his own.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Well put
Well put Raigne
And I must say
Under the circumstances, I don't think I'd mind one bit.
"'Cause there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fightin' for."
Well Ma'am...
Well ma'am...i like it. that ma'am i surely do.
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Wow.
Connin is so very appealing.
And though I don't care for [receiving] oral, that was superbly arousing. I'd let Connin go down on me, which is rare indeed! I'm going to be hot and bothered for a while now and I'm in no position to seek relief, alas.
Finnia was so real to me, and I liked her immensely.
A typo:
That last statement has WHAT instead of WAS.
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you don't care for oral?
you don't care for oral? anything in particular about it that turns you off, or is it just not your thing, or....? i'm just perplexed because i am so in love with it that i can't imagine this...though i do have one friend who is not overly fond of it...
The oral thing.
For one thing, I vastly prefer penetration to anything else. By leaps and bounds. So generally, why would I have anything other than cock in vagina, when cock in vagina is SO AWESOME to me? It gets me off much more quickly than anything other than a tub faucet, which is about as fast (and penetration by cock is way better in every way). But, I do very much enjoy manual stimulation as foreplay - I don't need it or always want it (often I'm too impatient for penetration) but it feels great and I come fairly quickly from it. I still definitely prefer g-sport orgasms - they are much more deeply satisfying.
Oral is just not the right type of stimulation. I have the same thing with vibration, though oral is slightly more pleasing. It's not BAD, but it's not very sexual for me. It's like someone giving me a bad massage where they are not rubbing hard enough (I hate weak massages, HATE! I like either light caresses or so much pressure I'm bruised). And it's not about the technique of oral - all the men I've dated seriously have LOVED oral (unfortunately, and they're always so disappointed!) except for one, and I've had far too much, and lots of different styles, and I can tell it's not the technique. It's the type of stimulation. It's just not stimulating in the right way. I find myself thinking frustratedly about all the awesome sexual things I could be doing instead of being orally stimulated, which is rather pointless.
I CAN orgasm from it but it takes a long time (30-45 min, which is really a long time for me, and I dislike sex longer than 15 min in general), and I always find it extremely boring. If I'm dating someone who really loves it I basically will 'allow' it as a favour on occasion, but it has almost no standalone appeal. I think I have asked for it twice in my life, mostly because I'm like HMM MAYBE NOW I'LL LIKE IT. But I never do. I'm a decisive person, but oral and pot - I keep thinking maybe if I try I'll like it, but I never do. Finally I've learnt my lesson with both!
Oral has sort of become a turn-off because I associate it with boredom - but it's not like, I find it gross, or am embarrassed, or anything like that, which people often assume.
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I could have written that myself
It's nice and all, but I get bored before anything substantial happens.
Let's start a club.
I'm very pleasantly surprised! We are even more alike sexually than I thought before. *awed*
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So now I'm really interested in this...
so I apologize if I'm asking too many questions. Have you ever tried oral + penetration? Maybe a heated glass dildo (or fingering, I guess) + oral? Have you ever had a threesome where one person fucked you and the other went down on you? I agree oral can be...ineffective...by itself, but I have one of these, and heating it and using it with oral is a recipe for squirting success. I think it's more fun to go down on a girl when she's being fucked, or at least when there's a toy involved. You can have one hand torturing a nipple (or two if it's a threesome), one hand (with or without a dildo) or a cock controlling the penetration, and that really sets the stage for the tongue to do it's best work.
Marginally related: the ridges on that particular glass dildo make it one of my all time favorites. It's also really hot to be using it on someone else, because it really meets some resistance when the interior muscles contract, which is really interesting to me.
Ah yes, kk, always so demanding. :D
I love questions, asking or answering 'em. The only oral/penetration I've had was fingering + oral. This greatly improves the sensation and overall experience for me and the majority of times I've been pleasured orally there has been major finger fucking.
I haven't had a proper threesome (a failed attempt only), but I should mention something else here - I'm REALLY bad at multitasking. REALLY bad. This applies to nearly everything. I am a very focused person, on one thing at a time. In sex this trait seems magnified. I find it difficult to kiss or touch or do anything other than focus on my pelvis during penetration, for example. I can do it, but then I lose awareness of what's going on elsewhere temporarily.
Because oral & manual geographically overlap on my body, I can sort of handle it - but it overwhelms me, and my brain doesn't really know what to focus on. I'll enjoy it but the whole experience is sort of - surreal. It's not an in-body experience the way most sex is for me. And then say, manual + penetration - I HATE that. I don't get any overlap there and it just distracts from the lovely penetration and delays my orgasm - very frustrating.
Dildos don't appeal to me at all. I have tried various things along their lines and it's just not interesting/pleasurable enough for me to choose to use them. Why would I when cock works so well?
Recently I 'leveled up' in my masturbatory skill and I've thought of trying some toys again - specifically because I've gotten much better at stimulating my g-spot but it tends to strain my hand and wrist badly. It's possible using one of these to really work my g-spot would make the use of props worthwhile for me. Do you think that dildo you recommend could do so?
But to restate it: I am utterly satisfied with the mechanics of sex as I currently most enjoy them, so I don't have much incentive to change them too much. Now introducing other mental or fantasty elements - that has GREAT appeal.
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Am I the only one?
finger fucking. *shudder* I don't think fingers are sexual. I don't want them on my clit, and I certainly don't want them inside me. I don't think it's a pleasant feeling, and the fingernails really weird me out. Hands can be sexy--holding, caressing, pinning, slapping--but never *there*
Life... is like a grapefruit. It's orange and squishy, and has a few pips in it, and some folks have half a one for breakfast.
I doubt it.
My best friend doesn't like the idea of masturbation in general. I don't think she's got anything against touching down there though. My point is that both are points of view I've only encountered once, so I don't know for sure, but my guess is you aren't alone. It's never just you (hence rule 34).
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
masturbation is great.
but vibrating toys work quickly without direct clitoral contact (which I don't like).
Life... is like a grapefruit. It's orange and squishy, and has a few pips in it, and some folks have half a one for breakfast.
The idea of a woman...
finger fucking me is usually way grosser than the idea of a man. Women have long fingernails, nail polish, fake nails, and other bacteria traps that thoroughly disgust me. Men (especially those that aren't car mechanics or construction workers or something) usually have short nails and clean hands. It really depends on the person for me, but I totally agree. That can be one of the grossest things there is...but it can also be one of the best with the right person.
that's why
God makes latex gloves.
not so much...
unless you're allergic to latex...
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A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
there are substitutes
for latex.
One of the most interesting
One of the most interesting things about threesomes is the variety of positions that can work in a threesome. I would be really interested to see if getting fucked while being eaten out worked well for you. The two things are really close together, and I've both done it, and had it done, and both worked out really well once we figured out the best position for it (doggy style fucking, with #3 eating you out from underneath...also awesome for a foursome, because the person eating you out can also be getting nailed, due to perpendicular angles).
As for a dildo with good g-spot action to save your wrist, you may want to try a double-ended dildo. They usually have a curved part that makes them easier to hold than the traditional dildo. I would recommend something with a head on it (or multiple ridges) that's large enough to catch slightly on your g-spot. The Bent Graduate might serve your purpose, as might anything on this page. I might not recommend the feeldoe, even though I have one and I love it for fucking other girls, because the part just below the bulb you would hold it with is weak-ish, and requires more stability of wrist than I think you want. You may have better luck with the nexus.
Remember when buying dildos, though...your eyes are bigger than your vagina. Measure a man that fits well, if you have a convenient one, or at least figure out the girth of the number of fingers you can fit in there comfortably. I have more problems in stores than online, because I think something will fit and it doesn't even come close, but it's just something to keep in mind. I wouldn't get anything much bigger than 1.25" in diameter (although everyone is different). If you do get something, would you mind letting me know what you get and how it goes? I love knowing how sex toys work out for other people in case someone else needs a recommendation.
Also check out these. You can get the nexus and a similar glass dildo to the Bent Graduate on Mei's site.
The Bent Graduate look-alike (glass)
The Nexus
Other stuff you may find interesting:
http://www.extremerestraints.com/glass-and-steel-dildos_39/the-twister_6...
http://www.extremerestraints.com/vibrating-sex-toys_80/g-force-massager_...
The softer side of g-spot stimulation:
http://www.extremerestraints.com/traditional-vibrators_171/the-trinity-l...
http://www.extremerestraints.com/vibrating-sex-toys_80/the-lelo-gigi-mas...
Stainless Steel
http://www.extremerestraints.com/classic-dildos_184/the-curvy-steel-dild...
http://www.extremerestraints.com/classic-dildos_184/the-dai-do-aluminum-...
http://www.extremerestraints.com/classic-dildos_184/the-stainless-steel-...
A favorite of mine:
http://www.extremerestraints.com/glass-and-steel-dildos_39/the-probe_194...
I understand what you mean.
For me, it's just really hit-or-miss, while other things are pretty dependable. Sometimes it's THE BEST THING EVER, others it's just a means to an end. It gets me wet without fail, whether I'm enjoying it overmuch or not, (which is a little odd, isn't it?) so it helps lubricate the way (ha! pun entirely intended) to other activities.
"'Cause there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fightin' for."
It's never a hit for me.
If penetration is a 10 at times, oral is never more than a 3. Ever.
I liked the lubing when I was on the pill, but off it I am dripping within seconds.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
i can never
stay awake long enough to orgasm from oral sex. the idea of it is just... *yawn* i think in my case it's less the type of stimulation, as it is about my actual role in the event. to me, the idea of just...laying there expecting someone else to just magically gift me with this orgasm is just the most boring thing i can think to be doing. i associate it with passivity, which is not a trait i like in bed. it's always struck me as rather odd, since all my female friends swear it's the greatest thing since the rabbit (which i personally find painful to use, the penetration part is fine, but for whatever reason the little 'ears' are just ouchy.)
i feel slightly less abnormal now.
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
I dislike the passivity of it too!
I agree completely. I'm actually submissive, too....but I'm not passive. And just lying there - ugh! The idea is so very unappealing as you said.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
why lay there?
it's so much more fun to struggle than to just....stay still. i've had some (limited) experience with Dom/sub relationships, both on a full time basis and as a fun scenario to make things just that much hotter, and i can't think of anyone who's ever expected true passivity. i'm sure it has its fans, but yeah, no thanks. tie me up, gag me, whatever, just don't expect me to lay about waiting for your magic tongue.
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
So, if one were to...
... tie you up and gag you first, would giving you oral work better for you?
it's very possible.
no one's ever tried it that way, and at least i'd feel like a participant then lmao
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
Sorry to intrude
but I find that appealing and am planning to set it up the next time
(at her place, she's got a good bed for tying people up... I think).
Because why not?! #Oh, look, a webcomic!#
No need to feel...
... like you intrude, or that you need to be sorry for anything. Have fun!
Report back how it went.
I lay there bc it's boring!
There's nothing to make me struggle or squirm, which I agree is WAY better.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
Hmm, I like that idea; got to
Hmm, I like that idea; got to try it sometime... I mean, I'm similar, can't just lie there and wait and well, in some positions it's impossible...
Because why not?! #Oh, look, a webcomic!#
hate the rabbit
My partner bought it for me as a valentine's day gift and I found it unpleasant plus the "ears" got tangled in my pubic hair...ouch!
I'm the same way about oral as a few others here: just doesn't do much for me. I allow it because he likes it but I much much prefer the real thing. I always thought men preferred penetration and that oral sex was for the woman. But not in my bedroom.
men who love going down
...way, WAY outnumber those who don't. It is one of the great secrets of the American Male: He loves eating pussy. I don't think it gets advertised much because it's somehow not considered masculine. Actually, I've got a subscriber story planned on just this topic. Which is weird, considering I don't care for it much and I've got all these story ideas about it.
Aw man
So I'm just unlucky to get one that doesn't get excited about it? He'll do it, sure, but much prefers other activities... oh well, I'll keep him anyway.
Clare K. R. Miller, author of Chatoyant College
http://clarekrmiller.digitalnovelists.com
I think...
American men *say* they love it because that's what women want to hear. I know a lot of men who claim to love it, but in the end, they do prefer sex/blow-jobs/hand-jobs/tit-fucking/ass-fucking/etc if given the option. I think they just assume most women won't give them the option, and they prefer giving oral to not seeing you naked.
ETA: Actually, now I'm curious. If you're a man, and you prefer giving oral to anything in that above list, please comment and tell me I'm wrong. I would be very interested to see that you exist.
I didn't say they liked it BETTER than all that stuff
I'm just saying they really, really like it. A lot.
Ah.
Yeah, I guess that makes more sense. Still, I think many of the guys I've met say they like it a lot more than they actually like it. That might just be me, though.
Considering that I am not American...
... I don't know how much I can add to this discussion, but FWIW:
I *love* giving oral. Love it. Love it. Love it. To the point where I probably wouldn't be happy in bed with a partner who doesn't derive a good amount of pleasure from it, at least in the long term.
I'll definitely skip a hand job or a tit fuck for a chance to go down on her. I have, in fact, missed out on a boinking on occasion because I went down on my wife until she came, after which the combined exhaustion and afterglow claimed her and she fell asleep. Given the right circumstances (which currently don't obtain, so this is more theoretical), I would opt out of a blow job or anal sex as well.
So yeah. Last I checked, I am not American but I do, in fact, exist.
I should have guessed :)
and thanks for sharing
That is really interesting to me. I find giving oral to men a major turn-on (like, major enough that it's my standard foreplay because of how wet it gets me), but I can't finish from that alone unless I am simultaneously playing with myself or being penetrated, and getting that incredibly turned on with no release is frustrating. It seems like it must almost be less sexual if you like giving oral enough that it's okay with you if you don't get to finish too. When that happens to me (a guy finishes in my mouth), I pretty much have to play with myself until I finish too. Is that the case for you as well? The other solution I've found is to reverse the order: sex first, then oral (since I love it when he finishes in my mouth). Maybe I'm selfish? Once we get started down that path (the one where I get really turned on), I have to finish, even if I just do it myself.
I find performing oral sex on men more of a turn-on than on women, too, because there's so much more contact (although to be fair, women make way hotter noises). It's in your mouth and down your throat, and you feel it with your whole mouth: lips, tongue, throat, everything. Maybe it's the invasion that I like? I'm not sure. I couldn't be with a guy that didn't like *both* making out and blow jobs, but one or the other is fine as long as I get oral stimulation from somewhere. I've found, though, that even guys that think they don't like blow jobs are easily swayed.
Why no oral --> sex?
Is it because the oral finish is too essential for you to skip? I'll admit an oral finish is very satisfying, but usually not enough to override my own selfish desire to get fucked, though it really depends on my mood. I would say most oral I have performed is either standalone (great if you're horny but for whatever reason can't/don't want penetration) - or else he'll pleasure me manually before/after, or rest a little while and then we can fuck - or most commonly by far, I'll blow him but not quite to the brink and then we fuck. But a man has to have good control obviously in this latter case.
The invasion is definitely a huge part of why I love performing.
Also, i think many men have received a lot of mediocre or terrible blow jobs, which would explain why some of them are reluctant to be blown.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
I should have been...
more specific. When I said giving oral was standard foreplay, I meant I usually do that first and then move to sex. That's awesome, but sometimes I feel bad when I finish first, and I often wish the guy could finish and I could finish. When I have sex with girls and we take turns doing oral (or whatever), I like to do them first, and it's hard to do that with guys, especially if you're slow getting off from oral. It's also sometimes a control issue. If I blow a guy until I'm ready for sex, sometimes he's too ready for sex :-/
I agree a lot of men have received a lot of terrible blow jobs. My current boyfriend used to really dislike blowjobs, and the first time we made it that far, he was like, eh, don't bother. He is no longer reluctant, however.
I think enthusiasm and willingness to be...messy...are essential to a good blow job.
I have, on occasion...
... come from giving oral(+manual) alone, although most - but certainly not all - of that has happened in my younger and more excitable years.
And if I don't get to finish? It's not always necessary. Sometimes the intimacy kinda overwhelms the excitement and the whole experience leaves me so emotionally satisfied that the need for physical release isn't so urgent anymore. And for the rest, which is most days? Well, yes, when there's no sex of any kind afterwards, there's always masturbation to let go of the built up sexual excitement. And make no mistake, going down on a woman is an intensely sexual act for me.
And as for going down on men? I have, being insufficiently bi, no basis for comparison. I do admit to finding the idea of going down on a man somewhat appealing, albeit mostly in the abstract (see also: insufficiently bi).
To like blow jobs...
(giving, that is), I think you have to find the way men smell inherently appealing. If you sometimes walk by a man, and you're like, wow, he smells amazing, you might be sufficiently bi
Otherwise, the abstract is probably more appealing than the act.
Or maybe it's just me.
The only thing that has ever made me come without touching anything below the waist was playing with my nipples and it's only happened a couple of times. I wish I could come from blowing someone though. I can get really, really close, but I can't finish it. One of my greatest fantasies is the idea of chinese fingercuffs. One man in my mouth, and one fucking me from behind. I'm also interested in the classic DP, but it's more logistically difficult.
I don't know if it's just you, but....
... I don't think it quite applies to me. I mean, sure, there have been men that made me go "Whoa! Animal Lust Smell", but that is exceedingly rare. I'm generally more visual than that, in any case.
No, somehow it's all about the cock in my mouth and making the person attached to that cock feel good. The problem comes from the fact that the body and the person attached to that cock is bound to be male, which generally doesn't appeal. (As I said, insufficiently bi.) BTW, I can totally see the appeal of the chinese fingercuffs. If I were ever to play with a couple where the man is sufficiently appealing to me, I'd definitely want to try that.
But the chances of either of those things happening are so vanishingly small, they hardly bear thinking about, except as masturbation fodder.
For you...
which end is the guy on? The rear?
That would depend...
... on the plumbing choices of the female involved. Having the guy in the rear is appealing if I can get my mouth on her lady parts. If she's wearing a strap-on, I think I'd rather suck on the bio cock than the plastic one.
It's your fantasy :)
I'm guessing you can have it whichever way you want. I might steal it, though, in which case, when it's my fantasy, you're totally taking it from behind.
Sucking on a plastic cock seems a little...ridiculous, so we'll let you at the lady parts if you're good.
gatherings...
Sometimes I wonder how a get together of this group doesn't turn into an orgy by the end of the night....
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
Nothing such has been discussed in the forums
And that's the final word on the matter for now
Wow! Sarcasm! That's original!
I'm perfectly...
... fine with that, so be my guest.
The point of this fantasy is to take it in the ass while doing something fun and useful with my mouth. You may note how both scenarios fulfill this criterion while leaving me the choice of what, exactly, I'm getting my mouth on.
Thank you, kind lady!
I agree partly with ML and partly with kk, here.
So, I do think it's true that a majority of men LOVE eating pussy, and that this fact is severely underreported and discussed. I'd say men love giving oral more than woman do.
But, I think that the largest factor in WHY men love eating pussy is associative; namely, they've learned to associate performing the act with a very enthusiastic response from women generally. I think the larger obsession here is a love of making but more than that seeing women come, as violently and overtly as possible. And for many if not most women well-performed oral is the best route to such an end.
This obsession with female pleasure manifests in the fantasy of female masturbation - for many men I know it's the highest type of porn, the hottest idea to wank to, etc. How much you want to bet these men love eating pussy? And then there is the whole visual aspect; I think even though performing oral can have unpleasant moments (stubble, hair, smell/odour in some cases, tongue gets tired, etc) - the visual and plain sexual appeal of having one's face mashed into a pussy is so hot to many men. I personally find that crazy, because I'm not visual like that and I don't find female genitalia at all appealing. But that clearly is the case for so many.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
So let's...
... discuss this some more.
That's certainly a factor for me. I admit to being a bit obsessive about making my partner come, and if she didn't get off on oral, I would like doing it much less. I would still like doing it though, and I would very much regret the fact that it didn't do much for her. As I said, I love oral, and I always have, basically ever since I started getting sexually interested in women.
I'm the odd one out, then. *shrug* Female masturbation as a porn motif doesn't even make it into my top ten.
This, on the other hand, I can completely agree to.
So...
what is in your top ten?
These are all interesting points, especially coming from a guy who does it. Thanks for the input
ETA: What is it you actually like about oral? Can you describe it? Is it the feel, the smell, the noises she makes, what? What is the most significant factor in making you like oral?
My, aren't....
... you the curious type. But then, I like geeking out about sex probably at least as much as you do, so let's see.
What porn turns me on changes quite a bit, both short and long term. Right now it's, in no particular order:
I also happen to think that Shine Louise Houston/Pink and White Productions make some of the hottest porn on the planet.
The most significant factor? I don't know. My Mouth On Her Pussy sums it up pretty well.
Seriously, I'm probably about as orally fixated as you are, so anything I can get my mouth on is great. I like the feel, and I find the topography utterly fascinating. I like how it gets her going. I also like the smell, but that may well be by association.
I think this is...
pretty close to what I was getting at it. I think a lot of men do like to please women and will do/enjoy whatever it takes for that to happen, but I don't think the act itself is as interesting to as many men as Mei thinks it is. That's even partially true for me, especially with women.
With men, the act of oral sex physically turns me on, as long as he can maintain a boner, whether he likes it or not. I wouldn't do it if he didn't like it, but...you know what I mean. It just feels really incredible to have something in my mouth. With women, the act is interesting, more because you're making her come, than because it feels good on your mouth. With women, there are just so many more things that are more interesting than oral sex by itself. Women are soft, round, and warm, and everything about them is appealing. They even smell appealing. They make amazing noises when they come, where many men are silent. There are just things I like more about women than the actual act of eating a woman out. With men, performing oral sex on a man is one of the most appealing things about them. It is hot, invasive, and hard. It smells good, it tastes good, and it entirely overwhelms the senses.
Let's just say
...that I know some sex workers, and you might be surprised what men pay for.
it wasn't
that it got tangled in anything, that's not a possible problem, it's just the way they rest on the rest of my bits i guess. a friend got me one a few years back when i was single, and i figured 'ok, i'll try it.' at first, it was merely uncomfortable, after a minute and a half i was in absolute pain, all i could think was 'holy jeez, this must be what female circumcision feels like.'
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
I don't have a rabbit...
but I think I've had similar problems. I think the trick for me was really just to be conscious of where my urethra was, and avoid applying pressure directly to it or too near it. Then again, I don't have a rabbit, so I can't say if that's even possible given the configuration of outer and inner vibrations. I do know what the rabbit is, but I've never actually used it. I still swear by the Wahl-7-in-1 (or the Swedish Erotica or Shaw's brand knockoff), which comes with an innie+outie attachment.
Also, entanglements can often be avoided with a beard trimmer. A #2 setting works well, and is what i usually use on the top tuft when I have it.
they can be avoided with
they can be avoided with laser hair removal too xD
it wasn't that it was irritating my urethra, i just have an insanely sensitive clitoral area, and any sort of direct stimulation from anything other than a body part is ouchy, and not the good kind of ouchy. sucks, but i'm not really a vibrator kind of girl anyway. my hand works just fine, and when it gets tired, well...that's what i have my boyfriend for.
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
True...
but that seemed like a more extreme suggestion. I like to take requests from lovers on that front, and the boy has not yet made a permanent decision, so he gets a partial wax with some trimming for right now, until he decides next week that he wants something different.
Good to know, about the sensitivity+rabbit effect. Now I kind of want one out of sheer curiosity.
hehe
it was a spur of the moment decision several years ago. but, it saves me 20 minutes in the shower every day, so i can't complain.
and good luck to you with that. i have friends that swear it's the best thing to happen to masturbation since the hand.
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
Never heard it about the rabbit
Seen a lot of support for it, but the miracle masturbation aid I hear about most often is the hitatchi magic wand.
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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you lasered off ALL your pubic hair?!?
Or just the sides down your legs? I've heard of shaved pussies, but that doesn't appeal to me at all. The rabbit was getting tangled in the hair right around my clitoris. Not the sides. I trim the sides during the summer when I'm wearing a bathing suit, but otherwise I leave it as it is. Anything more than that and I get ingrown hairs. Ouch.
Oooh, have you had laser hair removal there?
I really want all the hair not on my mons pubis removed. What'd you have done, pros and cons, costs, time, etc? I'd love to hear about your experience.
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
yeah
i got as much of my body hair removed as possible. i very nearly got my eyebrows done away with as well, but decided against it. it took something like...12 sessions to get everything gone. the sessions weren't very long but not only am i part russian, but they were trying to get into some very out of the way places with that thing :S the first few sessions were done with Rubystar, which was....painful, and i ended up with two small burns on the back of one knee. the rest were done using EpiLight which was still a bit uncomfortable at times, but no burns! all in all it cost like $7000 to do >.< but at the time i had discretionary cash to toss around. pros: no stubble for a few years cons: it's not entirely permanent. i won't be doing it again.
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
Thanks for the info.
Which laser type did you have for the removal of pubic hair? How about for armpit hair? Those are the only hairs I would liked lasered off. The hair that has grown back - is it softer/finer/lighter and is there much much less of it? do you just shave it? If you had the money, would you have more sessions?
"It's FAIR NYMPH, fuckwads, only ONE y."
http://fairnymph.livejournal.com/
so far anything i do notice
so far anything i do notice is definitely softer, reminds me of before i discovered shaving heh. EpiLight was used on both, after the problems with the Rubystar. i didn't really bother to much research before i dove into the process, and it turns out that the Rubystar is like...one of the worst apparently. Every doctor i've talked to since says IPL systems are the best (that's what the EpiLight is) and if i had more money, i might consider it, at least for the pubic hair and armpits. i think i went overboard with getting my legs done.
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
I really like...
having a hairless labia, and just leaving a fuzz little at the top, but I'm afraid I'm going to like...idk get spider veins there or wrinkles or something when I'm old. Does anyone know anything about how your vagina changes as you age? Would getting laser hair removal there be a problem? Am I going to want to cover something when I'm old? How about childbirth...does that change the appearance at all?
I would love to do that, but I think I would do armpits and legs before I did the pubic hair. The customizability appeals to me right now, but I think I'll get tired of waxing some day.
i don't think it's a problem
because as i said earlier, it's not permanent. so even having everything lasered off,it will grow back eventually, i didn't really ask the doctor i saw about it, but everything i've read says about 5-7 years of hairlessness before it grows back.
the better question is: when you're older will you view your changing body the same way you do now, i.e. worries about it not looking as good, or will you be able to age gracefully, as it were? (not kicking and screaming, worrying about this vein or that wrinkle or how you looked so much better 20 years ago)
"I have heard the languages of the apocalypse, and now I shall embrace the silence" from Neil Gaiman's "The Sandman: Endless Nights"
M.I.A....
Okay, so we took the kidlins camping and I haven't seen a computer since Thursday. Hence why my two cents never came in before.
I really love giving oral. I've had several lovers that did not take care of themselves and were rather nasty so they didn't get it very often, if ever. And it's not just the tongue and lips that are involved. Hands and fingers get involved too. I love the taste and smell. And yes, I'm American.
As for receiving, I love that too. But have received more crappy blowjobs than good.
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
I can be...
a pretty lazy lover, and I still find oral sort of boring. It occasionally works for me, but it usually takes too long--my attention span for anything, including sex, is pretty short. I like both giving and recieving more as "appetizer" activities than a means to an end.
Life... is like a grapefruit. It's orange and squishy, and has a few pips in it, and some folks have half a one for breakfast.
Oral
I find oral nice as an experience, but it takes loong time for me to get anywhere with it and actually it made me want some penetration; which was quite problematic as I have only experience with females for now and no toys at hand... So it just became irritating after a while.
Now, if I had a man with oral as a foreplay and then get to the other jazz I'd probably be FUCK YES!
But it seems I'm more of the cooperative person, as I don't like to lie and wait to be satisfied (It makes me think: I'd bring myself much faster); I'd rather it goes both ways or... well, if I had some Dom/Sub roleplay with bondage etc. it might work well, but I haven't gotten up to that yet >.>
Because why not?! #Oh, look, a webcomic!#
Two more...
... thoughts on the matter.
First, penetration. What's wrong with combining oral with a finger or two, or three, or however many you want, inside? Sure, the feeling of fullness, if that's what you want out of penetration, may be hard to achieve unless you go the whole hog and try fisting, but I've found that my mouth on her clit and my fingers on her G-spot are generally a combination made of win.
Second, passivity and cooperation. I find sixty-nine to be a rather agreeable solution for that, although I admit that the angles seem to be kinda wrong for combining this with effective penetrative play, at leat with no toys involved. I've certainly never managed that feat unless I was the one on top.
Hmmm
As for the first: no one has yet found my G-spot, including myself. I know it's got to be there somewhere, but as for now it seems elusive D:
I think oral could work for me I just haven't found the right combination yet. I mean, I like the feeling just... it didn't work. Huh.
As for sixty-nine; the problem is I'm slightly obsessive-compulsive and for some unknown reason making oral on a woman utterly frightens me. Maybe that's why it didn't work for me, I was afraid I'm not able to uhm, return the favor.
Because why not?! #Oh, look, a webcomic!#
Geez...
I really should have read that when I was home, and not at a friend's house.
Stupid me.
...freaking awesome, Mei.
Heh.
I was a little distracted the first time around, so I may have to read it a second time. And a third time. Eheh...
When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. -Arthur Conan Doyle
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It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
this is almost exactly
...the kind of story I may be making available to subscribers.
Wah!
I would totally love more stories like this, MeiLin. And it would make me likely to subscribe, though I've been planning on it...though, being unemployed has kind of made it impossible. ~.^ But, I have employment now! So I may be able to work out something, even if it's just the bare minimum I could give you. <3
Oh my.
I would feel privileged indeed, were that the case!
"'Cause there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fightin' for."
Personal Enjoyment
After reading the comments, I must add my vote that thinking of this as hot rubs me the wrong way, so I will refrain from doing so and maintain my own form of personal enjoyment. =)
Excellent fleshing out of past history, MeiLin!!! Stories like this really seem to validate that this is an INTIMATE history, and make the whole seem all the more honest to me. I enjoy honesty and openness! Even if sometimes it does make me feel a little too... (well I can't find the word) "overly interested in scandal." =}
Oral
My husband has been known to beg me to let him eat me out... he's a sweety like that ^^
This is almost definitely the
This is almost definitely the wrong place for this, but I have no idea how to navigate the forums here, so I'm going to ask here instead:
Meilin- Do you ever plan on coming off of this haitus or can I safely stop checking this site every day at work?
In short, yes. In long, yes
In short, yes.
In long, yes she plans on coming off the hiatus. No, it probably won't be any time soon, if the chapter numbers in her Twitter feed are remotely close to the same number of them originally. Yes, you can stop checking daily at work. Checking daily at home is much more fun.
And before TB or NWM says anything, I know I shouldn't feed trolls. This one just looked so cute. I just want to take it home with me.
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I don't think that was troll-y
It's a legitimate question! I had no idea it was going to take this long, but seriously, it's going to be worth the wait. (I so, so hope.)
I'm currently writing chapter nine, but chapters in the rewrite are MUCH, MUCH LONGER than in the original. The original ran between 1800-4000 words a chapter, leaning toward 2000, and the rewrite is between 3800-9000 words a chapter, leaning more toward 8000. I'm--geez, I may be halfway done! I'm not sure! I'm halfway through the outline, and remember, big chunks are already written so while I don't exactly cut and paste, I do have something to work from. Big, big chunks of the new book have been written from scratch, not rewritten.
Part of what's taking so long is the whole kitchen falling apart thing; I've been 99.9% responsible for running that project, and the whole thing was thrust upon us when we were already working on No2 Daughter's room. (That project STILL isn't done...)
So yeah, artistic ambition and real life conspire against me. Back to work!
Makes sense to me
I've occasionally been struck by the feeling that some of your chapters would be subsections in a full chapter in a printed version, despite working well as single chapters on the site. Glad to hear I wasn't totally making it up
"The worst thing in life isn't to die. The worst thing is to have lived but have missed it."
I will try to be good.
intros, we likes dem...
I thought this was a legit question and I'm 95% confidant I've seen posts with this screen name before. Whether or not this is was the same person I'm not sure. Note to Banshee, if you create an account, then I'd be sure. But I figured it would be best for the answer to come from the philly's mouth...
PETA = People Eating Tasty Animals
A failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.
Google is lovely
Search!
site:meilinmiranda.com "banshee (not verified")
Result!
http://www.meilinmiranda.com/character-study-senik#comment-29748
"The worst thing in life isn't to die. The worst thing is to have lived but have missed it."
I will try to be good.
I feel it's pretty much
I feel it's pretty much pointless to create an account given that I have so much trouble understanding how to navigate this particular site. Because of the layout I almost never attempt to contribute anything here. I imagine I probably haven't posted more than a handful or two of comments on this site as a whole. I only ever really say anything when I can't find what I'm looking for on here. I posted about wanting a page that only shows story updates because I was having trouble keeping up with the story updates on the main page due to all the other updates and I couldn't figure out how to get to a page that just had what I was looking for. Now I'm posting about the lack of updates because I couldn't find any info on the reason for the lack. I probably won't post again for months and months. So I don't really see much need for an account. I'm not really trying to be part of the community so much as I'm trying to keep up with the story.
Thanks for remembering me though. That's kinda cool.
Banshee is a long-time reader
^^
Wow! Sarcasm! That's original!
All right
I have been duly reprimanded.
I will have myself beaten.
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Hey now
Around here that's a reward, not a punishment.
Nor was my comment intended to chastise--I just happen to recognize her from another forum we both frequented and know that she's been reading for a while. She showed up in a discussion about Drupal forums/threads and some of their weaknesses relative to phpBB, too.
Wow! Sarcasm! That's original!
Huh, neat. People recognize
Huh, neat. People recognize me.
OK, as I said I don't actually read much of anything here except the actual story updates, and the little "Meilin is on haitus" box up in the corner. I don't mind haituses, but the little info box said "for the summer" and since we're about a month and a half out of the summer now I was beginning to wonder. I did attempt to navigate the forum and the other "everything included" update page or whatever it is, but I wasn't really able to find anything explaining what was going on. So, thank you for cluing me in. I did not realize that it was a "rewrite and add stuff so that I can publish this" haitus. Mayhap an update to the little top corner info box every so often is in order for those of us who find your site ridiculously difficult to navigate?
done
I've updated both the box and the FAQ, which is linked in the top menu.
I keep hearing from some people how hard this site is to navigate, and I've tried to make it easier but I'm at a loss at this point.
And I do remember you. Thanks for sticking around.
What I've noticed
Things I think would be helpful:
For the story, you've got a few groups.
-New readers. These people need an easy way to get to the beginning. This is the "start" link.
-Current readers who want the latest story page. There isn't currently a perfect way to do this; you can go to Newest Content, Newest Story Pages or Recent Posts and just find the latest one, but there isn't a "go immediately to whatever the single most recent story page is" link the way there is a Start link.
-People who want to find a specific spot in the story. This is what the table of contents is for. The table of contents is currently pretty well hidden- you have to go to the homepage, and then click table of contents, and then find the book you want.
For the forums, I'd say you only need two things: Recent Posts (seeing what's happened since they logged in for people who are registered, perusing active topics for guest users) and Forums (if you want to look for something by forum category). Since I found /tracker I have yet to use Newest Content or Newest Story; I think of them as "Tracker but less useful."
Perhaps if you change the menu from:
"START | NEWEST | TRACKER | BLOG | FORUM"
to
"START | LATEST | FORUM | RECENT POSTS | BLOG"
or maybe
"START | LATEST | TABLE OF CONTENTS | FORUM | RECENT POSTS | BLOG"
...anyone else? People who LOVELOVELOVE the Newest Content page? People who think Tracker is a better name than Recent Posts? I can't be the only web developer besides MeiLin around here
"The worst thing in life isn't to die. The worst thing is to have lived but have missed it."
I will try to be good.
I'd go for something...
... along the lines of
"START | LATEST | RECENT POSTS | TABLE OF CONTENTS | FORUM | BLOG"
with LATEST going to the most recent story (book chapter or bonus story) only, which is different from what it does now.
Personally, I use /tracker almost exclusively, and the Forum/Blog/TOC links (the last of which is way too hard to find) when I'm searching for something specific.
Thanks
That is indeed what I meant by Latest, I just fail at actually explaining my hypothetical menus
I don't really use Blog or Forum myself, but I can see where they'd be useful to people. TOC is definitely kind of invisible unless you happen to be on the front page (which interferes with my nice bookmarked /tracker page)
"The worst thing in life isn't to die. The worst thing is to have lived but have missed it."
I will try to be good.
Thank you. I think my
Thank you.
I think my difficulty stems mostly from what I believe someone said was "drupal" or something like that. It's been a while since I really tried to do much besides read story updates and check the forum for updates about what the deal with the haitus was, so it might only be in relation to the forum that "drupal" is a problem for me. I'm not sure. The point is that I don't think you can make things easier on those of us who are used to/more familiar with other forms of forum unless you overhaul the entire thing and change it to something else. Personally, as thrilled as I would be that I could then participate a bit more, I would feel like shit if you did such a massive overhaul so I don't actually think you should do so unless you really do have a LOT of people complaining.
Mayhap in the next few days I will do a little more digging around the site in an attempt to help figure out what my issue is. I do hate to keep bitching about the navigation/layout like this...
Don't worry
You cannot POSSIBLY be worse than I am. I'm currently in a 15 email long conversation with the tech support for my school's class planning website, with such comments as "Your menu is throwing Javascript errors, and even though the errors do nothing and the menu works perfectly fine, the fact that there are errors bothers me on a theoretical level."
(That's a slight exaggeration, the errors DO have an effect, but it doesn't really affect usability at all)
As far as drupal goes: drupal is just a name for a PHP framework. It's what the site is built with. It's kind of like saying you think it's Javascript that bothers you about the site. Something written using Javascript may very well be the problem, but it's probably not the Javascript itself that is the issue.
If you can figure out what it is you have trouble finding, though, that'd make it easier to revamp navigation. She's already done it once- she added a "If you just want Newest Story Chapters click here" link at the top of the Newest page based on user feedback. I've got various little things I'd see changed in Ideal MeiLin world that don't bother me enough to complain, but if you can figure out what exactly bothers you, post it! Worst case MeiLin decides it's a fringe case and doesn't change anything; best case other people agree and when she has time, MeiLin can try to fix it.
"The worst thing in life isn't to die. The worst thing is to have lived but have missed it."
I will try to be good.
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